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2012Coleman

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Posted: 06/25/20 06:01am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Obatanga Borealis wrote:

Wow. I expected urbane, constructive comments on this board but have received a lot of disparaging remarks. Unbelievable. I expected more of an RV brotherhood here.
I'm your neighbor, I like to keep chickens and hatch chicks. But dangit! people reported me to the HOA because (they say) my rooster wakes them up too early!

I complained on my favorite chicken forum saying, it's not like I've got some big RV sitting in my driveway.... did I just type that? Anyway, got the same types of responses - so no chicken brotherhood for me.

Moral of the story is that the restrictions most likely prohibit stuff that you wouldn't want to put up with - and if you say you wouldn't care, then you most likely would not have moved there.

We took stock of the neighborhood we wanted to move into - saw RVs in driveways behind fences, checked the HOA covenants which said that and a few other things that were important to us were OK.


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Amazing how many people don't bother to read the entire thread before posting their learned opinion. The OP has stated a number of times he does not live in an HOA [emoticon].

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Again, I appreciate the thoughtful comments. We do not live in some beach town where you might see RVs everywhere. It just makes little sense for township zoning boards to consider RVs as some sort of trash vehicle that brings down property values when tastefully parked in a long driveway. One neighbor mentioned that the township only enforces the RV ordinance if someone complains. Again, that's a ridiculous way to run a local government. There's also very few storage lots in the region, which further complicates the issue. I just don't understand the discrimination against RVers when I see dump trucks, utility vans, boat trailers, uninspected vehicles, etc. parked in local driveways. If I could, I'd just move out into the country somewhere. Or just hit the road in the rig! Thanks, folks.

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A1ARealtorRick wrote:

way2roll wrote:

This is an ordinance in our HOA - one I am not happy about and was changed after we moved here. We actually have boat storage in our neighborhood but RV's aren't permitted. We were told when we bought a lot here we could store our RV there - lied to basically. Anyway, the rule is that it can be in your drive for less than 24 hrs. But some folks do it for 2-3 days until someone complains. I've asked for an exception once for 3 days while we had family visiting to use it as a spare bedroom and it was denied. So now I don't ask for permission. I do what I want and ask for forgiveness later. There is an exception in cases of an extended power outage - like after a hurricane. I miss our old property. Had 6 acres and could store the Rv where I could see it.


If the ordinance was changed AFTER you moved there, were you able to have your say at the HOA meeting that was held when the matter was discussed and voted upon? I would imagine you did. And, relying on a verbal representation and basing your purchase on that is, well, just plain foolish. Sorry, just calling it as I see it.


Well assumptions without facts makes you - well, wrong. We went through a builder who brought down the lot and built the home and transferred to us. During that process the builder brought down enough lots to have controlling interest in the HOA. We technically weren't the homeowners then, the builder was. The timing was that the annual HOA meeting was held while the builder was building the house and thus we had no say and didn't even know. The family that owned the land was in control when we started the deal, when we were ready to build they sold all the lots to the builder. The process was in flux while the rules were changed and we weren't included. Anyway, long story short, we were told one things when we started the process and by the time we finished we had no idea ownership changed hands and thus the rules. By the time we signed the ink we were too personally and financially invested to die on that hill. But, had we known the rules had changed before they started the build, we would not have gone through with it. In various meetings since, several homeowners - including myself have brought this up in the HOA but not enough to sway a vote. Anyway, get the facts before you try and flame someone.


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Where we live you can keep it in your back yard behind the back of your house. AND it needs to be under 20' in length.
I know I really do not want to look at my neighbors TT and I take mine up North to our house there that is a vacation community at the lake. It is all cottages on large lots, perfect for TT storage as no one live year round next door.
I really think it is the right thing to do if you can.


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Use to live in a neighborhood with very strict HOA. At the time we had a pop-up camper which we stored on our property out in the middle of nowhere where we eventually built our home. A couple days before and after a camping trip we would park the camper in the driveway to prep for the trip and then cleanup afterwards. Every time we did this we got letters from the HOA complaining. The person who complained to the HOA owned an ice cream truck that he parked on the road in front of his house 365 days a year. So it was OK for his ice cream truck to sit there every day on the road but not for my camper on the driveway for a couple days before and after a trip. The HOA controlled your property, however, the roads were county roads, so the HOA had no control of the public road where he parked. As long as he could fire up the engine on the ice cream truck when someone complained he was good. So he kept the battery hooked up to shore power 365 days a year to make sure he could crank her up on demand. The guy owned at least one gas station where he could have parked it. He knew the rules and complained about everybody. When my wife moved into that house she got a complaint one day after she moved in about her grass being too high, not a good sign.


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we are allowed 1 apr30-nov 1. my boat and my camper share the spot the other lives in the back lot at work. come nov 1 ill likely wait for a warning on the boat (there are campers and boats all down my street. the launch is less than a mile away) and if they get away with it so will I. If not the boat will join the camper at work on go in to storage depending on how much the owners like me at the time.


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we do get a 4 day grace period though so boat and camper sit side by each a few days around camping trips while we pack/cleanup

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Posted: 06/25/20 09:28am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

way2roll wrote:

A1ARealtorRick wrote:

way2roll wrote:

This is an ordinance in our HOA - one I am not happy about and was changed after we moved here. We actually have boat storage in our neighborhood but RV's aren't permitted. We were told when we bought a lot here we could store our RV there - lied to basically. Anyway, the rule is that it can be in your drive for less than 24 hrs. But some folks do it for 2-3 days until someone complains. I've asked for an exception once for 3 days while we had family visiting to use it as a spare bedroom and it was denied. So now I don't ask for permission. I do what I want and ask for forgiveness later. There is an exception in cases of an extended power outage - like after a hurricane. I miss our old property. Had 6 acres and could store the Rv where I could see it.


If the ordinance was changed AFTER you moved there, were you able to have your say at the HOA meeting that was held when the matter was discussed and voted upon? I would imagine you did. And, relying on a verbal representation and basing your purchase on that is, well, just plain foolish. Sorry, just calling it as I see it.


Well assumptions without facts makes you - well, wrong. We went through a builder who brought down the lot and built the home and transferred to us. During that process the builder brought down enough lots to have controlling interest in the HOA. We technically weren't the homeowners then, the builder was. The timing was that the annual HOA meeting was held while the builder was building the house and thus we had no say and didn't even know. The family that owned the land was in control when we started the deal, when we were ready to build they sold all the lots to the builder. The process was in flux while the rules were changed and we weren't included. Anyway, long story short, we were told one things when we started the process and by the time we finished we had no idea ownership changed hands and thus the rules. By the time we signed the ink we were too personally and financially invested to die on that hill. But, had we known the rules had changed before they started the build, we would not have gone through with it. In various meetings since, several homeowners - including myself have brought this up in the HOA but not enough to sway a vote. Anyway, get the facts before you try and flame someone.


OK, now that I have all the facts that were left out of your previous post(s), here's a suggestion you might not have considered. MOVE!


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Posted: 06/25/20 09:42am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

trouble is you get people like my BIL. Who has been fighting the city for years.
He thinks it is perfectly fine to pile his driveway, yard and where ever he can find, with junk trailers, rusted farm tractors, and junk of every kind and description. And he uses the same argument. He has rights, it is his property, he can do what he wants. Strangely he never considers his neighbors or their rights.

Many times laws are passed because of someone like him, but it affects the rest of us

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