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Jackathan

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Posted: 06/27/20 10:28am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

With my Anderson, I make sure to re-torque the hitch after the weight of the camper is on it, per the instructions. Really helps.

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Thank you all for the replies. It is not a short bed truck for whoever "guessed" and I'm crabby so apologies now but I even said "long bed" [emoticon]

And I really do appreciate people taking a moment to post things to consider. Fifth wheel is new to me, Andersen hitch new to me too. I had read plenty and talked to several different RV dealers, I thought I was making a good decision.

I will take a look at some of the other options. Good news is the hitch is brand new and while I might take a bit of a loss if I have to go that route and sell it, I'd rather deal with it now and not later.

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Well 11,225# listed DRY weight and 2,200# pin is 19.5%, so a bit light, get it loaded it has a 14,000# GVWR and load towards the front and the ride should be better.


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Well a funny update, maybe nothing, maybe something. The service dept at the dealer installed the hitch facing wrong direction. This maybe part of the issue, maybe it's just how this setup 'feels', but for sure it was not in correctly. Which means the trailer was probably 4-6" forward where it should have been further back. Probably explains why I also with an 8' bed couldn't actually get close to a 90d turn before seeing rear bumper almost touching trailer.

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Posted: 06/27/20 07:01pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Good catch. Hopefully turning the hitch head will fix you up.
A different brand hitch may or may not help with chucking issues as many rv folks have found out. Too many players about what causes chucking in different combinations to guess why its chucking.


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Posted: 06/28/20 05:32am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Being a new-to-you trailer this will require some fine tuning. My Jayco with a gross of 9500 chucked badly when I first got it. This was with my ‘01 Ram dually Using either a Reese 15K Pro or Reese 22K hitch. Added shocks and a 5th Airborne pinbox that helped a lot. Still chucked on the westbound end of the old Tappan Zee though to the extent I almost got car sick.
Anyway same trailer, same setup, either hitch but towing with ‘15 RAM dually, very rare to chuck and is usually the road surface where maybe slowing down or speeding up a little helps.
All that to say you will need to tweak your setup to get into the sweet spot for towing comfort.
Best luck, this is all part of the fun!


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jeffjcalweb wrote:

Well a funny update, maybe nothing, maybe something. The service dept at the dealer installed the hitch facing wrong direction. This maybe part of the issue, maybe it's just how this setup 'feels', but for sure it was not in correctly. Which means the trailer was probably 4-6" forward where it should have been further back. Probably explains why I also with an 8' bed couldn't actually get close to a 90d turn before seeing rear bumper almost touching trailer.


Kind of goes to my point about hitch position. Hopefully positioning the hitch is the key to your issues. As others have said, putting gear in correctly and balancing your weights can be another issue. Many have posted positive reviews about the Anderson hitch. So, try out the other things before trying a new hitch. There is no reason that the hitch you have and your truck you should have issues. A 5th wheel does pull different from a bumper pull, but typically better with less bounce.

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Does the Dodge have an anti trailer sway option. Ford has one and if it detects the trailer swaying it applies the trailer brakes. And dont ask me how it works I have no clue


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Posted: 06/29/20 07:27am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Thermoguy wrote:

I have wanted to try the Anderson hitch but what you said is the reason I have stayed away from it.
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One of the questions about the Anderson Hitch, does it have any adjustments?
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Update - clearance of your pinbox, frame etc, to bed must be checked by you and this post contains no warranty that these settings or positions will clear all obstructions in your particular installation.

Quote trimmed to address adjustment on Andersen hitch - The Andersen Ultimate 5th wheel hitch has 4 combinations of positioning that can adjust fore and aft placement of the pin. I had a write-up on that somewhere but can't find it right now, so forgive me for not including the actual length of adjustment, but I can find it again if you're really interested. Be right back ... ok, the documentation and specs can be found here pick the spec to match the hitch you're curious about

The Andersen frame (at least mine - older version) is labeled with "This side towards cab" but communication with Andersen verified I can install it either direction. The ball leg of the frame is offset from the gooseneck ball connector 5.375". So, that gives you 10.75" of adjustment fore and aft of the gooseneck ball (not variable adjustment, just 2 different "placements").
The adapter plate that mounts to the kingpin has a 4" offset, and can be oriented forward or aft, yielding an 8" difference.

So, ranges of adjustment from the gooseneck ball (my example) can be:

Option 1
- frame pointed aft -5.375"
- adapter pointed aft -4.00"
total aft offset -9.375"

Option 2
- frame aft -5.375"
- adapter forward +4.00"
total aft offset -1.375"

Option 3
- frame forward +5.375"
- adapter aft -4.00"
total forward offset +1.375"

Option 4
- frame forward +5.375"
- adapter forward +4.00"
total forward offset +9.375"

2nd update - I only addressed fore and aft adjustment. The ball has 3 height positions - from the bed of the truck to the top of the ball - 16.5", 17.625" and 18.75"

* This post was edited 06/29/20 11:58am by gkainz *


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hotpepperkid wrote:

Does the Dodge have an anti trailer sway option. Ford has one and if it detects the trailer swaying it applies the trailer brakes. And dont ask me how it works I have no clue

While it is a nice feature not necessary with a 5er.

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