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ajriding

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Posted: 08/01/20 09:09am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I have done water damage repair on several campers. Just a small amount of water will ruin a wall or roof.

My plan is to touch up the dicor once. I do not layer and layer it on a spot, after a spot has been touched up then the 2nd time I will scrape it off and start from bare. It scrapes off so easy with a scraper.

Being paranoid about water damage is good. Water means death and is why RV's typically die. Water damage is the majority of problems in RVs.

A friend kept layering on silicone and it looked like an ice cave formation, but still leaked. Silicone is a disaster as it is hard to scrape off and layering it on just made the leaks more of a labryrinth

I have used Eterna bound. If you over-lap the tape then that area will leak. Use Dicore where it overlaps as the tape will never fill in the tiny right angles the tape makes on its edges. Use dicore everywhere the tape meets or overlaps, then it will work and likely not leak. Dicor is easy because it can just be scrapped off and redone, where Tape makes a mess to redo.
Tape has its uses.

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ajriding wrote:

I have done water damage repair on several campers. Just a small amount of water will ruin a wall or roof.

My plan is to touch up the dicor once. I do not layer and layer it on a spot, after a spot has been touched up then the 2nd time I will scrape it off and start from bare. It scrapes off so easy with a scraper.

Being paranoid about water damage is good. Water means death and is why RV's typically die. Water damage is the majority of problems in RVs.

A friend kept layering on silicone and it looked like an ice cave formation, but still leaked. Silicone is a disaster as it is hard to scrape off and layering it on just made the leaks more of a labryrinth

I have used Eterna bound. If you over-lap the tape then that area will leak. Use Dicore where it overlaps as the tape will never fill in the tiny right angles the tape makes on its edges. Use dicore everywhere the tape meets or overlaps, then it will work and likely not leak. Dicor is easy because it can just be scrapped off and redone, where Tape makes a mess to redo.
Tape has its uses.


I'm feeling like this is most likely the route I am heading. As noted, we have owned the camper 2 years. I have touched up many individual spots but nothing more than once. Now that I have added a lot across the front seal we will see how it ages. I have never removed Decor so it's good to know it's not difficult. Thanks again all!

Unrelated.. Is it St Clair PA you are from? Spent lots of time outside St Clair ATV riding over the years but it's been a while.

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I use blue tape to mask off the area to be repaired. This affords the chance to use a throwaway brush with the bristles cut off for a little siffer brush and work the Dicor caulking well into the repair. Brushing back and forth to work well into the cracks, or work past dirt or any residue left on the surface. When you pull the tape off you end up with a nice straight line, very professional without smears yet worked well into the surface repair.

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Lap sealant comes in self-leveling and regular. The self-leveling should run down into crevaces and such with no need to brush on. The tape is a good idea.

St clair is made up, but a location was required when registering, even for those who prefer more private internet security...

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ajriding wrote:

Lap sealant comes in self-leveling and regular. The self-leveling should run down into crevaces and such with no need to brush on. The tape is a good idea.

St clair is made up, but a location was required when registering, even for those who prefer more private internet security...


Yes it does, However working it into the surface both directions has an added benefit on the micro level. Kind of like the difference between brushing paint to work it into the surface for greater adhesive quality. Then the masking makes for a professional straight line job while working it back and forth into the repair.

* This post was edited 08/01/20 09:13pm by covered wagon *

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i think the OP needs to find another hobby and give the roof a rest/break. My 10 year old roof has never been washed.

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kfp673 wrote:

Thanks everyone!

Regarding eternabond it's easy to get mixed reviews. Lots of online reviews of people having water work it's way under and it turns into a mess.


IMO that statement about "LOTS OF ONLINE REVIEWS and WATER", is simply NOT TRUE. Unless it's improperly applied or the product is defective (Eternabond does have a shelf life of around 5 yrs), water simply will not work it's way under the tape.

Larry


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LarryJM wrote:

kfp673 wrote:

Thanks everyone!

Regarding eternabond it's easy to get mixed reviews. Lots of online reviews of people having water work it's way under and it turns into a mess.


IMO that statement about "LOTS OF ONLINE REVIEWS and WATER", is simply NOT TRUE. Unless it's improperly applied or the product is defective (Eternabond does have a shelf life of around 5 yrs), water simply will not work it's way under the tape.

Larry


I've witnessed it lifting. Yep actually curling up on the edges and then highway speeds make the curl catch wind and gradually pull loose enough exposing the damaged area underneath. It leaked. The plastic tape shrinks and curls then wind and suns heat does the rest.It turns to something I won't use.

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covered wagon wrote:

LarryJM wrote:

kfp673 wrote:

Thanks everyone!

Regarding eternabond it's easy to get mixed reviews. Lots of online reviews of people having water work it's way under and it turns into a mess.


IMO that statement about "LOTS OF ONLINE REVIEWS and WATER", is simply NOT TRUE. Unless it's improperly applied or the product is defective (Eternabond does have a shelf life of around 5 yrs), water simply will not work it's way under the tape.

Larry


I've witnessed it lifting. Yep actually curling up on the edges and then highway speeds make the curl catch wind and gradually pull loose enough exposing the damaged area underneath. It leaked. The plastic tape shrinks and curls then wind and suns heat does the rest.It turns to something I won't use.
I've seen that too. On my own RV. It only happened once. I believe it was that evil bad run of product they had at one time. I've used probably 150' of the stuff over the years. I've also used the Dicor product. Eternabond is a much more permanent, and reliable solution.


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TurnThePage wrote:

covered wagon wrote:

LarryJM wrote:

kfp673 wrote:

Thanks everyone!

Regarding eternabond it's easy to get mixed reviews. Lots of online reviews of people having water work it's way under and it turns into a mess.


IMO that statement about "LOTS OF ONLINE REVIEWS and WATER", is simply NOT TRUE. Unless it's improperly applied or the product is defective (Eternabond does have a shelf life of around 5 yrs), water simply will not work it's way under the tape.

Larry


I've witnessed it lifting. Yep actually curling up on the edges and then highway speeds make the curl catch wind and gradually pull loose enough exposing the damaged area underneath. It leaked. The plastic tape shrinks and curls then wind and suns heat does the rest.It turns to something I won't use.
I've seen that too. On my own RV. It only happened once. I believe it was that evil bad run of product they had at one time. I've used probably 150' of the stuff over the years. I've also used the Dicor product. Eternabond is a much more permanent, and reliable solution.


Your issue was improper application. Eternabond clearly states that when a leading edged is exposed perpendicular to the seam at uninterupted highway speeds that leading edge can come loose and they recommend applying a thin layer of sealant/caulk to that leading edge to prevent that issue. I had to do that on the very front strip on my front cap Eternabond strip to prevent it from coming loose.

Also the poster complaining about the covering shrinking is again actually improperly applying the product since you absolutely cannot pull or "stretch" Eternabond over anything since the microsealant is elastic and will pull loose over time if under tension.

Larry

* This post was edited 08/05/20 05:54pm by LarryJM *

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