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thomas201

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Well we have time right now, the new 4457 forms are out and customs is not that busy. So, planning for next year, why not get the 4457 done? Form fill and call up your local, or not so local, customs man/woman and make an appointment. Help me investigate the possibilities:

Long guns: Take them with you, US https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2019-Sep/CBP%20Form%204457.pdf and for Canada https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/wam/media/2347/original/d369a605ac3363b569af5ea5dc40c88d.pdf , at $25 Canadian this is a great deal. The rules are on the form. Based on a 2019 moose hunt it is smooth and professional at the border. This is my favorite and the lowest cost option. You can also mail or ship from you to you with love, with or without the help of an FFL holder. However, it will cost you more. Take your time and do your research.

Pistols and revolvers: Now we have crossed the Rubicon. From what I can read, forget taking it with you. It’s legal, but unless you are a competitive shooter and can line up a match in Yukon, not likely. So you can ship it with the help of an FFL on the far end, find a pro on the net, and follow their directions exactly. You might save some money using an FFL on both ends and shipping US mail, however without the FFL on the lower 48 end you must use a private shipper and premium service. Fairly expensive, unless you get a discount!!

The last way, just to be contrary and save money. Buy an 80% frame, suitable for your needs. The 80% frame, jig, end mill, bits, slide, barrel, mags, (they will sell it all in a kit), bullets (not cartridges), brass, Lee hand press, dies, and all go into a medium, or large flat rate box. Mail it to yourself, or have a friend drop it in the mail. It is not a gun, until you touch the frame with a tool. The catch, you need a table top drill press and a cross slide vice and a rainy afternoon. However, since I have room in the basement and I am at 17% on my pin, this is a viable option. According to the Canadian border folks I spoke with and their website, you may import limited amounts of power and primers; I would expect a search however. You could also buy the ammo in Alaska. Before you leave Alaska, cut the frame up with the end mill in the press, or just burn it. You will pay for the flat rate box, both ways and $100 to $150 for the frame. The rest of the parts go back home by mail for reuse.

Whatever, you do, do not take the 80% frame into Canada, or any of the gun parts. I don’t know about Canadian law, but you will learn all about an acronym “ITAR” the hard way from the US. The window for this option may soon close, if “Ghost Guns” become forbidden. However, with the 2,000,000 Winchester 37 shotguns and all the other firearms made without serial numbers, I do not see them as a real problem.

As always, do your research, before you go. Plus my advice is worth what you paid for it. Now anyone have better ideas? Always remember, if your mind is too open, your brain will fall out.

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“Whatever, you do, do not take the 80% frame into Canada, or any of the gun parts.”

Or ammunition. Respect our neighbor’s laws.


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Want your weapon in Alaska? Ship it. And ship it back home, too.

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I had seen a you tube vid showing someone shipping guns to AK
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Wolfhawk Gun shipping in Tok AK. shows in video at about the 5:30 point.

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https://www.nrcan.gc.ca/explosives/importing-exporting-and-transporting-transit/importation-exportation-and-transportation-transit-ammunition/9909

Canada will allow US citizens to transport up to 5,000 rounds of ammo, I could search again, but I think 5,000 primers and several pounds of powder are also OK. I think 5,000 rounds is darn generous.

Always do your own research, and print out the regs to take with you. I know from work that a radioactive source can be transferred to Canada. I also know we can bring one up from Mexico. High explosives can also be moved between our countries (oil field perforation charges). All kinds of stuff are legal, do you research, ask questions, have contacts on both sides of the border. It is all about paperwork and signatures.

It ain't right and wrong, its legal and illegal.

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"...better ideas"?

Yep, but a question first: Why are you bringing a firearm to Alaska? Is it for a hunting trip? Bear protection on a true wilderness self-guided fishing trip? General concerns on the wild streets of Los Anchorage and Squarebanks?

Unless it's for a hunting trip, my personal view is that there is no need to cart a firearm in an RV up to Alaska....and if it's a hunting trip to Alaska, one probably wouldn't be driving. Most fishing guides don't want clients to have firearms and unless one is truly at a remote area, on foot, chances of running into brother bruin with a bad attitude are pretty small.

....and a bit of inquiry will identify the parts of Los Anchorage, Squarebanks, and the Meth-Su to avoid so that a defensive firearm is not needed.

If one is determined to carry, then ship it to and from. Least hassle, probably in the final analysis least expensive.


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Neighbor took a single action Super Blackhawk .44 magnum to Canada to protect from bears in Northern Ontario while fishing in the back country.. He took soft point ammo as hollow points are no-no. This was two years ago, I think. He told me about it last year. I don't know about the forms and cost.

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Mailing rifles and shotguns to yourself in care of another individual (not an FFL) via USPS is legal. The lib postmaster broke my shoes about it and even made me tear open my box to show her the contents. Next time I won't be so forthright about the contents and try to follow the letter of the law.

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When went to rocky point in Mexico, there was a store at the border that allowed you to check your gun in for a fee and pick it back up when exiting Mexico. Is there any location on the Canadian border that will do the same thing. Traveling to Alaska without a weapon is probably safe but getting to the border through the USA may not be safe.


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hpdrver, I'm scratching my head a little over your comment. Am I correct in saying that "you check your gun on the US side of the border before entering Mexico, right? So why would you not do the same thing in the US before crossing into Canada? Therefore, why would across the border or on the border in Canada, say a business, need to be there to check your gun?

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