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goducks10

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Posted: 08/09/20 11:25am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

No different than buying an out of state fishing/hunting license.
I would like to know why there are so many Idahoans here camping. Never seen so many ID plates before. Been to Idaho several times and found it to be very nice for camping. Why the big drive to Oregon when they have someplace already nice?

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goducks10 wrote:

No different than buying an out of state fishing/hunting license.
I would like to know why there are so many Idahoans here camping. Never seen so many ID plates before. Been to Idaho several times and found it to be very nice for camping. Why the big drive to Oregon when they have someplace already nice?

We host for OPRD and have spent a lot of time on the coast. In the past lots of out of state plates. Then starting about September we would see mostly California and Canadian plates as out of state.
OPRD doesn’t get funding from the state general fund as stated before the three main sources are User Fees, Lottery Dollars, and 60% of Oregon RV registration fees. Needless to say when they shut down the state all three took a hit. There are small federal and state grants, but likely only account for 1 to 2% of total budget.


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Thanks to "rhagfo" for posting the page from OPRD. After looking at the facts as given there, I have to say Oregon is still a great deal. I've been through these Temporary surcharges before and somehow they become permanent, once again, Oregon's charges are fair even with the charges. Fifty to seventy five dollars per night for an un-improved basic site on the beach in California State Parks is not a good deal no matter what.

The old we pay taxes and outsiders use our parks is a very tired old thing, forget it. Without visitors from other states Oregon's outrageous property taxes would rise and sales taxes would be imposed. We all get a good deal with being able to go on the road and visit one another's states.


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And....I bet the surcharge for out of staters won't go away once the pandemic ends.

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Oregon also implemented a three day ahead of reservation check on stare parks meaning you have to make reservation at least 3 days in advance as they are doing some sort of database check related to COVID I believe.


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goducks10 wrote:

No different than buying an out of state fishing/hunting license.
I would like to know why there are so many Idahoans here camping. Never seen so many ID plates before. Been to Idaho several times and found it to be very nice for camping. Why the big drive to Oregon when they have someplace already nice?
. Because Washintonians took over Idaho!! We had to go somewhere and Oregon really is beautiful! Thanks for letting us visit.

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goducks10 wrote:

No different than buying an out of state fishing/hunting license.
I would like to know why there are so many Idahoans here camping. Never seen so many ID plates before. Been to Idaho several times and found it to be very nice for camping. Why the big drive to Oregon when they have someplace already nice?
. Because Washintonians took over Idaho!! We had to go somewhere and Oregon really is beautiful! Thanks for letting us visit.


I see more Idaho plates on the Oregon coast because Idaho doesn't have a coast. We like Idaho as they have some beautiful places and hope to go back soon. We who live in the NW have so many beautiful places to camp so we all need to help keep them that way.


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TUCQUALA wrote:

ksg5000, WA parks DO NOT (at this time!!) charge "extra" to non-residents!! They have various levels according to services and seasons. There is a charge for the "Discover Pass" to access day use areas and some other parks, but it is not charged for or required when paying for a campsite. If you are an oldie, you probably remember the fee wars of the '70s and early '80s when a whole bunch of states charged extra for non-residents. It was Oregon that started the war!!!


I remember when Oregon started charging a fee for out of state fishing licenses. I went fishing at Henrys Lake in Idaho that year and there was already a "retribution" fee in place for Oregon residents. Can't say for sure, but my guess is those fees are still in place. Expect this policy to blossom, camping just got more expensive for those that like to travel and use state parks. Then again, expect everything to go up as state budgets are hurting.

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profdant139 wrote:

As someone who would have to pay that fee if traveling to Oregon, I think it's fair. I don't pay taxes in Oregon -- so why should Oregon taxpayers subsidize my recreation? And California universities certainly impose extra tuition for out of state students. So this practice, albeit discriminatory, is well-established.

Plus, frankly, the Oregon State Parks are usually much more nicely kept than those in California (which is where I live). Admittedly, "better than Calif" is a pretty low bar. [emoticon]


Dan,

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If you spend one Dollar in OREGUN you are most likely paying Taxes there - Sales - Gas - Use taxes - Fees - not to be a PITA - but - Please do not use anything in California as the Standard for the country, as you are COrrect that most likely it is a Very Low Bar, it might just not actually be true in other parts of the country where the bar is set much more realistically, JMHO.

As an example; While the airlines are all in serious trouble - Southwest did not grow into the Giant it is by being the leader in extra fee's, Oregun has pretty much said to Me - Not come - Not Visit and to Please not drive my RV and Spend my MONEY there - I am just not wanted/desired.

While we have visited and spent time and Money there in the past, it is highly unlikely we will in the future, as there are just so many Places that actually Invite/Encourage us to Come - Offer incentives - and certainly are much more receptive to the tourist/RV'er who help support the state, in many states in a very Big Way.

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Posted: 08/15/20 02:17pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I see that most of the people that are complaining about $5.00 have the biggest RV ( 5th wheels, MH & DP 35 to over 40 ft. )those big RV must
be hard on your bank accounts. You spend big dollars to gas or fuel up those big tanks and the cost of the big RV and you complain about a small increase for camping. How bout you posting the camp fees in your state parks. And in the end if you don't want to come to Oregon don't

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