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Damdifino

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I'm interested in the Isata 5 but can't find any unbiased information on it. A search of the class Class C forum returns only one incidental mention of it. Anyone have insight they can share?


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It looks great, try irv2.com & rvforum.net - rvforum.net post it in motorhomes they don't have just a class c forum.

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I don't own one but have some RVing friends (here in North Texas) who sold their Class A diesel pusher and ordered a new 2020 Isata 5 based on the Ram 5500. They took delivery a little over a year ago from the dealer south of the DFW Metroplex.

They've had nothing but problems with the dealer, the Isata 5, the Dodge and the manufacturer. It has spent almost as much time on the dealer's lot waiting for authorization for repairs as they've had it in their hands for camping trips. Electrical issues, water leak issues, water heater issues, propane issues, slide issues, craftsmanship problems with cabinets and trim, chassis electrical issues, stove problems, refrigerator problems to name a few. I've told them a number of times to skip the dealer and the warranty and park it in my backyard and we'll work on fixing everything together. They were planning on keeping it for at least 5 years, but they're already looking for a replacement. I'm sure they'd make you a deal on the one they have if you're interested.

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bob_nestor wrote:

I don't own one but have some RVing friends (here in North Texas) who sold their Class A diesel pusher and ordered a new 2020 Isata 5 based on the Ram 5500. They took delivery a little over a year ago from the dealer south of the DFW Metroplex.

They've had nothing but problems with the dealer, the Isata 5, the Dodge and the manufacturer. It has spent almost as much time on the dealer's lot waiting for authorization for repairs as they've had it in their hands for camping trips. Electrical issues, water leak issues, water heater issues, propane issues, slide issues, craftsmanship problems with cabinets and trim, chassis electrical issues, stove problems, refrigerator problems to name a few. I've told them a number of times to skip the dealer and the warranty and park it in my backyard and we'll work on fixing everything together. They were planning on keeping it for at least 5 years, but they're already looking for a replacement. I'm sure they'd make you a deal on the one they have if you're interested.


Not good. I feel very bad for them. But this is the kind of feedback I was hoping to get. Thanks.

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Will you be traveling with more than the 2 of you?

The HUGE flaw with the pickup-based Super-C's, on both the Ford and Ram chassis, is how low the cab and windshield are relative to the coach. So not only is step-through awkward, nobody in the back can see the road while traveling!

As for the chassis, both the 2019+ Ram and all Fords since 20011 use the Bosch CP4 fuel pump. This would be a non-starter for me. Especially in a motorhome, because you can't pull the cab to swap all the fuel lines when it grenades. I'd personally only consider a true MDT at this point, due to that fuel pump.

I had a Ram 5500 work truck for a while. I liked the Aisin transmission, the exhaust brake, and the steering and brakes feel. The seat quality was garbage. Hopefully the MH makes are doing full seat swaps. Factory foam breaks down in 60,000 miles. The alternator in those isn't great, and they sometimes have electrical issues caused by the up-fitter because everything gets attached to the the batteries. They don't have high-amp upfitter connection points like Ford does. But... this really comes down to the care taken by the upfitter.


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carringb wrote:

Will you be traveling with more than the 2 of you?

The HUGE flaw with the pickup-based Super-C's, on both the Ford and Ram chassis, is how low the cab and windshield are relative to the coach. So not only is step-through awkward, nobody in the back can see the road while traveling!

As for the chassis, both the 2019+ Ram and all Fords since 20011 use the Bosch CP4 fuel pump. This would be a non-starter for me. Especially in a motorhome, because you can't pull the cab to swap all the fuel lines when it grenades. I'd personally only consider a true MDT at this point, due to that fuel pump.

I had a Ram 5500 work truck for a while. I liked the Aisin transmission, the exhaust brake, and the steering and brakes feel. The seat quality was garbage. Hopefully the MH makes are doing full seat swaps. Factory foam breaks down in 60,000 miles. The alternator in those isn't great, and they sometimes have electrical issues caused by the up-fitter because everything gets attached to the the batteries. They don't have high-amp upfitter connection points like Ford does. But... this really comes down to the care taken by the upfitter.


More good info. Thanks, and keep 'em coming.

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carringb wrote:

Will you be traveling with more than the 2 of you?

The HUGE flaw with the pickup-based Super-C's, on both the Ford and Ram chassis, is how low the cab and windshield are relative to the coach. So not only is step-through awkward, nobody in the back can see the road while traveling!

As for the chassis, both the 2019+ Ram and all Fords since 20011 use the Bosch CP4 fuel pump. This would be a non-starter for me. Especially in a motorhome, because you can't pull the cab to swap all the fuel lines when it grenades. I'd personally only consider a true MDT at this point, due to that fuel pump.

I had a Ram 5500 work truck for a while. I liked the Aisin transmission, the exhaust brake, and the steering and brakes feel. The seat quality was garbage. Hopefully the MH makes are doing full seat swaps. Factory foam breaks down in 60,000 miles. The alternator in those isn't great, and they sometimes have electrical issues caused by the up-fitter because everything gets attached to the the batteries. They don't have high-amp upfitter connection points like Ford does. But... this really comes down to the care taken by the upfitter.


I like the MDT, but I want a 4x4. Otherwise, it sounds like the Ford and Ram have too many downsides.

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Damdifino wrote:


I like the MDT, but I want a 4x4. Otherwise, it sounds like the Ford and Ram have too many downsides.


Any specific reason you want 4x4?

Generally, these things are too long and low to venture off a gravel road. Motorhomes have good traction anyways because most of the weight is on the drivers. And for snow-driving, you'll still need chains even with 4x4, because nearly all states have chain laws that are more strict once you are over 10,000 pounds.

And.... hydraulic AWD is available as a conversion on all true MDTs with air brakes.
https://www.eztracawd.com

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carringb wrote:

The alternator in those isn't great, and they sometimes have electrical issues caused by the up-fitter because everything gets attached to the the batteries. They don't have high-amp upfitter connection points like Ford does. But... this really comes down to the care taken by the upfitter.


This is one of the problems my friends also had with their new 4x4 Isata 5 on the Ram 5500. While at the dealers waiting for coach repairs the chassis electronics somehow went "bad" to the point that the key fob wouldn't open the doors and the engine couldn't be started. It had to be towed to a Ram truck dealer where they argued about it being covered under warranty. That dealer eventually gave up working on it and it was towed to a second Ram truck dealer who fixed the problem. Apparently FCA's position was that it wasn't a chassis warranty issue because the uplifter had relocated some electronic control box on the chassis. The problem though turned out to be simple and was just a single pin in a connector that was misaligned.

BTW, the RV went into the dealer again after our last camping trip early last month for more repairs and as of yesterday is still sitting there.

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carringb wrote:

Damdifino wrote:


I like the MDT, but I want a 4x4. Otherwise, it sounds like the Ford and Ram have too many downsides.


Any specific reason you want 4x4?

Generally, these things are too long and low to venture off a gravel road. Motorhomes have good traction anyways because most of the weight is on the drivers. And for snow-driving, you'll still need chains even with 4x4, because nearly all states have chain laws that are more strict once you are over 10,000 pounds.

And.... hydraulic AWD is available as a conversion on all true MDTs with air brakes.
https://www.eztracawd.com

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