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Grit dog

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Posted: 08/17/20 10:59am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

MarkTwain wrote:


I would start with switching to a 16" rim if it will fit and "G" rated tires.


This is horrible advise, completely unnecessary “upgrade” and just generally wrong.


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wclement1248 wrote:

I had sway problems with my F250/TT with sway bars. i tried turning off the sway control function in the truck. apparently sway bars and sway control work against each other. Might work for you


I did that on my RAM and I could not tell the difference. I did that on the new f150 and it was worse! I had to pull of on an exit and turn it back on because Ford wont let you change settings while the vehicle is moving. which is ridiculous.


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aftermath wrote:

At five years out your original tires need to be replaced anyway. I had a Starcraft hybrid that wasn't nearly as heavy as your trailer. It came with C rated tires and I had a blowout soon after getting it. It met load ratings, but just barely. You need tires that will cover your trailer load and then some. I now have LRE tires (on a different trailer, 6500 lbs going down the road) and am very happy with them. They will carry up to 80PSI and have a speed rating of 75 or 80 MPH I believe. I run 70PSI and keep my speed as close to 65 as I can. Your plan to look at the new Goodyear is a good one. How much does your trailer weigh? Don't be afraid to move up to a LRE. You won't be putting "rocks" under your trailer.
Get the new tires, tweak your hitch some more and you will be good to go.


yes these tires have to be the biggest part of the problem. I can push on the back end of the trailer and you can just watch the tires squish side to side and up and down. kinda like Jello. I have not had the trailer weighed even though I know that is important. I have been guessing it weighs about the same as my old trailer loaded. which was 6500lbs. I am on vacation this week so I should take it up to the gravel pit and get it on the scales. but the tires definitely need to be replaced.

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aftermath wrote:

joytitra, just read through your thread again. I still say you need new trailer tires but another good point was raised. What truck tire do you have? I purchased a new tundra in 2008 and pulled my hybrid with it. When I got my Airstream I had to reset the hitch and it looked good. I had many miles towing with it until one day I felt a tiny bit of sway coming down a slight hill. I had some kind of P rated tire and read that weak sidewalls will create sway. I was due for new tires and moved up to LT tires and it made a lot of difference. So, trailer AND truck tires might be issue.


I'm sure the tires are of the P metric variety. the truck is a lease vehicle so changing the truck tires will probably not happen. The camper is definitely in need of tires so hopefully i can get those before the next trip in 2 weeks. monetarily though, that is the hold back.

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Ok, so knowing these tires need to be replaced asap I ordered some Carlisle HD trail D rated 8 ply tires. I got 4 from Walmart for 300 bucks so we'll see where we go from there. Coming home on this trip from the UP it was crazy with the wind. When we got closer to home and the road had trees next to it with no wind it towed pretty good. I just can't swing the extra money for the Goodyear endurance I was looking at but the Carlisle tires had good reviews and are rated for 81 mph and 2150 per tire. We buy Carlisle tires at work for the trailers and have not had any issues. We'll see in a couple of weeks on our next trip. All great comments and advice as usual.

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I'm assuming you have experimented with adjusting the anti-sway tension screw built into your hitch. I replaced my Towmax tires with Goodyearyear Endurance tires on my fifth wheel and experienced zero towing difference. However, I had no sway to begin with. The Endurance tires have stiffer sidewalls and more shallow tread depth so they may squirm less. If your Towmax tires are 5 years old you will want to replace them anyway. Load range G for that trailer doesn't make sense. I would go with whatever Goodyear has in your size. Gut feel, trailer tires aren't your problem.

You are riding really level. I hope you don't have air bags on your truck which would exacerbate sway. Could be your truck isn't up to the job.

Sway is tiring and potentially dangerous. A Hensley or Pro Pride hitch may be an appropriate fix for your problem. They project the pivot point to the rear axle of your truck and don't rely on friction to reduce sway.

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I'm sure the tires are of the P metric variety. the truck is a lease vehicle so changing the truck tires will probably not happen.


Not officially "recommending" this, but I haul alot of trailers with 1/2 tons with factory tires on them and when a little extra support is needed, I'll air them up to 50psi on 44psi tires and 60psi on 50psi XL tires and it helps a bunch. Typically it's not sway issues for me, flatbed trailers with too much tongue weight usually.
Had 1 1/2 ton that I was working hard pretty regularly. Boss wouldn't get me a HD truck and the equip dept wouldn't put new tires on it. Ran those little Hankook P something or others at about 65 psi for months. Basically tried to blow one up. Was not successful at blowing it up, but it did haul trailers much better!

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You seriously don’t need G rated tires. My trailer is on its third set of Carlisle Es. The trailer is 36’ and 10K plus. It pulls fine and the tires have been good. We tow upwards of 20k miles a year. Truck tires make a big difference too.

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Most likely you have Passenger tires on the truck and not LT tires. The LT tires will make a huge difference.

Put Goodyear Endurance tires on the trailer. The only ST205/75R15 GY has is a D load range. You could step to a 225 tire and get the E load range but you have to have a 6 inch wide rim, minimum, which I bet you do not have.

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Is what you are really getting sway, or just getting pushed by passing vehicles?

Even if everything is set up correctly I would think you can still get the push. Sometimes I get a push even from cars/vans/pickups passing if they are going substantially faster then me. Bigger the speed difference, more pronounced the push is.

If you have a oscillating/back and forth sway after the push, that that is a problem.


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