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specta

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Posted: 08/29/20 07:58am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I rarely dump my gray water in the forest and I have personally only ever seen one other person do it.

You act like everyone boondocking is dumping their gray water in the same place all the time. People aren't draining millions of gallons.

I've been boondocking for years because I loath campgrounds and I've never ever been able to detect that anyone has ever drained their gray water in any of the campsites that I have ever stayed in. If they did the campsites would most likely be even greener than they are.

I would have to think that if it was damaging the environment that the Forest Service would have put a stop to it years ago or we'd have a bunch of tree huggers blocking freeways and tearing down Teddy Roosevelt statues all across the country.


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Posted: 08/29/20 09:44am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I wonder how they're going to stop the wildlife from poop in' in the woods [emoticon]


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Posted: 08/29/20 10:47am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

ticki2 wrote:

I wonder how they're going to stop the wildlife from poop in' in the woods [emoticon]


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Posted: 08/29/20 10:54am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

No, cause the wildlife will just throw the dirty diapers into the bushes, like the humans do, especially near rest stops...


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Posted: 08/29/20 12:11pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Grey water being dumped wasn't all just out in the woods but rather on campsites. It wasn't tree huggers in this part of the world that first complained of this practice. Our camp sites stank and we the campers complained and soil samples taken by the state/COE/counties environmental folks showed extremely high levels of the wrong type bacteria and other chemicals.
Our kids actually played in what ever the last campers had drained out on the campsite. Some less enlightened campers said they saw nothing wrong with watering campsite trees/grass/shrubs with grey water.....never thinking long term.

Animal poo in the woods isn't concentrated in one spot for years but scattered around the area they frequent nor do they dump harmful chemicals in the woods...... unlike humans.


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What’s wrong with being a tree hugger exactly? I’m one and I am not going to hide my love of nature and the environment because it’s become cool to mock people who don’t want to trash the natural world. That said, I poop and pee and dump dish water when I’m out camping because...it’s natural. Dish soap in small concentrations, buried in sand isn’t going to kill forests or grasslands. Per and poop contain nitrates and organic matter and moisture for plants and bacteria.
But back to the original question of this thread, it seems to me that the guys occupying a spot for weeks on end, but only physically being there for a day or two are the very best thing for the environment. They certainly have minimal impact, no?


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I didn’t hear anyone say it was wrong to be a treehugger, but from looking online at the definitions ... I don’t think anyone driving a big truck with a truck camper will qualify for that term.


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specta wrote:

covered wagon wrote:

I look at things the way they are going and it increases my faith to see the stage being set for those things foretold many centuries ago.


They had gray water issues centuries ago? [emoticon]


one thing foretold many years ago was that we were headed for an ice age. guess it stalled out. [emoticon]

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JIMNLIN wrote:



Animal poo in the woods isn't concentrated in one spot for years but scattered around the area they frequent nor do they dump harmful chemicals in the woods...... unlike humans.


you obviously haven't seen the pile of deer poop around the salt block in my backyard.

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Seminoe Joe wrote:

What’s wrong with being a tree hugger exactly?


only the most rabid ones are "wrong"

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