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BenK

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Posted: 08/25/20 01:28pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Consider a full sized SUV.

Most are based on a pickup and are body on frame

Nephew has a Pilot (based on the Odyssey mini van) and it will do the job, but there will be times of struggle.

Any if the full sized half ton pickups or SUVs would allow for some future upgrades in trailer size...and...for your kids buddies

Search for fellow forum member Jeremiah, he has a setup think you would like


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A friction bar wouldn't hurt. Main thing is, weigh the tongue and the popup when loaded for camping, and make sure you have between 10% and 14% of the total popup weight on the hitch. This is the best way to avoid dangerous sway, and you shouldn't have any as long as hitch weight is proper. I rarely used anything for sway control when towing 16'-27' trailers, but when I had a 23' TT and a short wheelbase (111") SUV once upon a time, that rig definitely felt odd until I added an Equal-i-zer hitch.


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IdaD wrote:

COmountains wrote:


Even with a half-ton, you think a WDH is still a good thing to have? I was thinking just a friction control sway bar and call it a day*.


I'd drop it on a ball and try it out, and I bet that's all you would need to do.


^ This.
I wouldn't even consider a wdh or sway control on anything fullsize or even a midsize solid axle pickup.
Only if you get a SUV or mini Van that won't handle the tongue weight well.


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Posted: 08/25/20 09:13pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

COmountains wrote:

Durb-

Yep, this is a Coleman circa 2003 (but in great shape with lots of aftermarket stuff added).

Even with a half-ton, you think a WDH is still a good thing to have? I was thinking just a friction control sway bar and call it a day*.

*Reminder from my first post that this will be my first time towing anything ever so I have no idea what I'm doing. Been spending all my time researching tow vehicles, haven't gone down the rabbit-hole of hitches yet!


I bought the hitch for the Toyota and it was a Godsend. Didn't need the weight distribution part for the Nissan but used it as anti sway was incorporated. Didn't need the WDH at all if I didn't need to carry water. I'm thinking Coleman installed the water tank behind the axle. I think my model was a Grandview or something like that. It had a slide out dinette which was really convenient. The hitch helped me sell the trailer and I never regretted buying it.

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Posted: 08/26/20 05:54am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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So I feel stuck between not quite enough of a tow vehicle and under powered in the Pilot, but almost too much truck in a Tundra/F150. (too much being a waste of money, mpg, etc when it's not towing).

Just curious what some more experienced towers think about the situation.

Just about everyone that is looking at a RV trailer to pull goes through this regardless of the trailers size (5k or a 10k or a 20k or 25k lbs).

You know about the Pilot so use your own judgement on using it.

Fords F150 has more engine options/towing options than any of the other 1/2 ton size pickups.
Their turbo boosted engines can net in the 20+ mpg when not towing. Living in CO mountains JMO they would be a good pick.

Ram 1500 comes with a 3.0 v6 ecoboost engine thats advertised at 32 mpg hiway miles.
One rv website member has one he uses in his transport business delivering Airstream TTs. Hes always praising it for good mpg towing/empty and good reliability. His truck has lots on miles on the odo.

Don't forget GM Colorado/Canyon trucks sized just smaller than a full size 1/2 ton trucks.


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Some of the pups can't use wdh. Same with some of the TV. Best to check first. If it has a c shape frame, do not use one. It is not strong enough. You will not need it if you get a full size truck. You can always add the small friction sway bar. Just make sure you get a hitch thats compatible, if you dont you can always modify it. Your pup should have breaks if it was after 2000. I think colman had thwm on every model after that year. And yes you will need them. Check your tires on the pup also, look at the dates. Some of the pups had bad designs and needed the friction sway bar. Most dealers installed them. See if you have a ball on the toung side of the camper, it may allrwady be set up for the friction bar.


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Agree with others, you'll want a turbo. F150 is great, another option would be the GM Canyon/Colorado twins, which you can get with a turbo Diesel or Ram or GM half-ton diesels, great mileage. You'll like the diesel when you fill up at the truck stop and don't have to fight the cars.

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Don’t forget the Silverado’s turbo 4 banger. Great numbers out of a tiny engine!

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JIMNLIN wrote:




Ram 1500 comes with a 3.0 v6 ecoboost engine thats advertised at 32 mpg hiway miles.
One rv website member has one he uses in his transport business delivering Airstream TTs. Hes always praising it for good mpg towing/empty and good reliability. His truck has lots on miles on the odo.



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Posted: 08/28/20 07:06am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I highly recommend something with forced induction which has both more torque at lower engine speeds (<3000rpm) as well as losing less power at higher altitudes. The 2.7L Ford Ecoboost would be great, but so would something smaller if you do not want a full sized pickup. Some of the mid-sized SUVs with turbocharged 4-cly would work well, like Subaru Ascent.


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