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mkirsch

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Over the last year I've been contemplating consolidating down to one truck since my driving needs have changed.

Currently I have a 2015 Chevy Silverado 1500 double cab with 115,000 miles, and a 2002 Chevy Silverado 3500 regular cab with the 8.1L, Allison, and 53,000 miles.

The 2015 had a problem with the AFS lifter in the #1 cylinder back in January, causing a bent pushrod and $2500 in damage that GM would not warranty even though the truck was literally 100 miles out of warranty. I got off easy, but the truck is giving me reasons to not trust it. I've been told the AFS lifter issue is a common problem, so I'm not real keen on getting another ticking time bomb.

There is nothing major wrong with the 2002. It's been kept out of the salt so no body rust, but I'm sure the typical 20-year-old-truck issues are going to start nickle and dimeing me.

I have a truck camper and a few trailers to tow, and no longer need to drive 50 miles round trip to work every day.

My thinking was to trade both in against a Chevy 2500 regular cab long bed with a 6.0L, but come to find out GM no longer offers the 6.0L. All they have is the new 6.6L with VVT.

Anybody have any experience with these? I don't want to be a beta tester again. What about Ford and Dodge's big gassers? I don't want a diesel.


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The 6.0 as well as 5.3 have been outstanding engines from Chevy, owned several.
Have not heard much negative about the 6.6 but feel Chevy may be loosing some ground against the competition.

Ford coming out with that monster 7.3 pushrod engine paired with a 10 spd transmission has certainly got my attention for its towing prowess.

Dodge remains a viable option with the 6.4 and 8 spd auto with a solid reputation of more truck for the money.

Like you....don't want a diesel especially with the gas offerings today.

All my elderly friends that I tow with are very happy with their 6.4 Rams but I'm buying within a month and favoring the Super duty with 7.3.

Today's gas trucks can tow circles around the older trucks, think you'll still be very pleased with any of them.

Good luck.

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You’re out of luck unless you go used or leftover 6.0 GM.


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Personally, I'd keep the '02 3500 with the 8.1 and sell the '15.

I'd put up with the minor issues with the '02 or spent a few bucks and fix them at once.

The 8.1 will last a looooooong time. Just my 2 cents.


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mleekamp wrote:

Personally, I'd keep the '02 3500 with the 8.1 and sell the '15.

I'd put up with the minor issues with the '02 or spent a few bucks and fix them at once.

The 8.1 will last a looooooong time. Just my 2 cents.


That's all well and good but it's not a daily driver. Too loud. Too rough riding. 10 MPG going downhill with a tailwind.

Plus it would not last a winter on the salt roads. By the next spring it would be a rusted out carbuncle.

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kellem wrote:

The 6.0 as well as 5.3 have been outstanding engines from Chevy, owned several.


Betting you haven't owned a 2014-up 5.3 direct injection engine with the AFS.

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mkirsch wrote:


That's all well and good but it's not a daily driver. Too loud. Too rough riding. 10 MPG going downhill with a tailwind.

Plus it would not last a winter on the salt roads. By the next spring it would be a rusted out carbuncle.


Ok, it's an old truck and you want a new one.
But too loud? Put a quieter muffler on it. They had a little rumble right from the factory.
Too rough? A GMT 800 doesn't ride any rougher than any new HD pickup. Actually they're about the softest out there.
Mileage? You'll average 10 mpg vs 13 running around town. As soon as you hook a trailer, the difference will be negligible.

Nickel and dime? Literally. It only has 50k miles...
Never seen a salt winter, but won't make it a year without rusting through? Doesn't compute.

Aside from fuel mileage driving empty and a bit more power out of the new trucks, yours doesn't give up much to the new trucks. I'm all about new, nice, etc, but call it what it is, you want a new truck, the old one aint bad.
How much you want for the old one? CC, 4wd?

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mkirsch wrote:

kellem wrote:

The 6.0 as well as 5.3 have been outstanding engines from Chevy, owned several.


Betting you haven't owned a 2014-up 5.3 direct injection engine with the AFS.


No I have not, last Chevy truck was an 05.

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mkirsch wrote:

kellem wrote:

The 6.0 as well as 5.3 have been outstanding engines from Chevy, owned several.


Betting you haven't owned a 2014-up 5.3 direct injection engine with the AFS.


You just have to keep good oil in them and change it on time. Run cheap oil and let the OLM get to zero and it changes everything.

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mkirsch wrote:

Over the last year I've been contemplating consolidating down to one truck since my driving needs have changed.

Currently I have a 2015 Chevy Silverado 1500 double cab with 115,000 miles, and a 2002 Chevy Silverado 3500 regular cab with the 8.1L, Allison, and 53,000 miles.

The 2015 had a problem with the AFS lifter in the #1 cylinder back in January, causing a bent pushrod and $2500 in damage that GM would not warranty even though the truck was literally 100 miles out of warranty. I got off easy, but the truck is giving me reasons to not trust it. I've been told the AFS lifter issue is a common problem, so I'm not real keen on getting another ticking time bomb.

There is nothing major wrong with the 2002. It's been kept out of the salt so no body rust, but I'm sure the typical 20-year-old-truck issues are going to start nickle and dimeing me.

I have a truck camper and a few trailers to tow, and no longer need to drive 50 miles round trip to work every day.

My thinking was to trade both in against a Chevy 2500 regular cab long bed with a 6.0L, but come to find out GM no longer offers the 6.0L. All they have is the new 6.6L with VVT.

Anybody have any experience with these? I don't want to be a beta tester again. What about Ford and Dodge's big gassers? I don't want a diesel.


I didn't think the 6.6L had all the techy things of the 5.3L. I thought it had direct injection, and that's about it. No AFM or any of the other issues.

Having said that, it only having a 6 spd turns me off. The Ford 7.3 seems even less techy (no direct injection) but has a 10 spd.

Never wanted a 6.0l, but the 6.6 does intrigue me. Just very hard to come by even to just look at.


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