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joerg68

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Posted: 09/02/20 09:36am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The camper front moves 11 inches to one side, did I read that right? I am not sure there is that much space for mine to move. It never has moved noticably between 2 Trucks, 3 different campers and a number of different spacer concepts under the camper.
Something has got to be unique about your setup or usage.
Replacement with a belly bar may only expose another underlying issue. It may just fail at the weakest spot, wherever that is.


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Posted: 09/02/20 09:39am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

AnEv942 wrote:



NRALIFR-Curious, though doesn't look like with new upper tie off point would give enough angle (and you've solved your problem) why is the lower mount not to the hole in end of insert plate?
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It’s easier to hook the tiedown there.

My jacks have to swing out a little farther than normal because the F450 is a few inches wider than the F350 dually of the same model year. Not sure if that’s still true with the current F450 pickups, but it was true in 2016. The truck wouldn’t fit between the front jacks that had been plenty wide for the F350 dually I used to have. So, my swing-out extensions have extensions now! That puts the forward hole so close to the jack when it’s swung in that it makes it harder to get the hook in the hole. And like you said, that little bit of angle isn’t enough to do any good. I tried using that hole on both front tiedowns for a while, and the camper could still slide backwards.

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HadEnough wrote:

You’re also picturing the forces all wrong. UPWARD force is what’s breaking them, not downward. They aren’t a good design, really.

Probably not contacting Torklift. Multiple sets have broken at $800 a pop and I don’t want to deal with the hassle anymore, so I’m going to make a better mount.


Why do you have so much upward force? Something is really wrong with your setup. Do you have an extreme amount of overhang or what? What truck do you have and which Arctic Fox.

I don’t agree that it’s a bad design. If it was, you would have had someone else note that they had the same issue. Also, if you are paying 800 for front mounts, you are paying over double too much.


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I would like to see actual picture of tiedowns mounted.
Something is badly wrong with design or use.
On my truck the plate where ties go is facing forward, what gives pulling force to keep camper against bed front wall.
On the picture above there is nothing that will hold the camper from moving to the rear.
Friction of bed mat works only when you park, while vibration during driving make the support liquefy





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OP-do you have a SB camper on a LB?
I don’t see where you posted camper/truck model (other than 2500)?

How tight are your tie downs?

I’ve been around here quite a while, seen all kinds of mishaps/failures.
Never saw this before...

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Buzzcut1 wrote:

My buddy has my old SRW with the Steel tie downs and they are ten years old and going strong.

DITTO on the "going strong" part,

My Arctic Fox 811, steel Torklift Tiedowns and Fastguns are going on 11 years old. I have NEVER had a problem with any of them.


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HadEnough wrote:

The front has moved 11 inches off center to the passenger side.


Is this on a flatbed truck? I can't understand how a normal truck bed (with wheel wells) would accommodate a truck camper moving 11" to one side or the other in the front.

When my long bed 811 is loaded on my long bed truck, and centered exactly, there's 2 3/4" between each bed rail and the corresponding side of the truck camper.

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Torklift stands behind their product so if you've been buying sets of mounts over and over and over that's on you. They would most certainly work with a reasonable, rational customer who came to them with such an issue. At the very least they can assess your setup and tell you what is happening.

For them to be breaking due to upward force you must be putting ungodly amounts of tension on the tiedowns, or hitting bumps hard enough to send the camper into space.

IMHO the camper should stay in the bed simply due to weight and friction under normal driving conditions. I myself would not hesitate to take the tiedowns off my camper and drive around town. It would not move a fraction of an inch and I am not doing anything special to keep it there.


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deltabravo wrote:

HadEnough wrote:

The front has moved 11 inches off center to the passenger side.


Is this on a flatbed truck? I can't understand how a normal truck bed (with wheel wells) would accommodate a truck camper moving 11" to one side or the other in the front.

When my long bed 811 is loaded on my long bed truck, and centered exactly, there's 2 3/4" between each bed rail and the corresponding side of the truck camper.


It twisted around the wheel wells.

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mkirsch wrote:

Torklift stands behind their product so if you've been buying sets of mounts over and over and over that's on you. They would most certainly work with a reasonable, rational customer who came to them with such an issue. At the very least they can assess your setup and tell you what is happening.

For them to be breaking due to upward force you must be putting ungodly amounts of tension on the tiedowns, or hitting bumps hard enough to send the camper into space.

IMHO the camper should stay in the bed simply due to weight and friction under normal driving conditions. I myself would not hesitate to take the tiedowns off my camper and drive around town. It would not move a fraction of an inch and I am not doing anything special to keep it there.


It’s bumps sending it into space, I’m sure.

I’m just done dealing with the issue.

Torklift is definitely a good company. They offered to replace a rear mount that popped off before. It just came loose and was gone one day when I drove without the camper on. Just the bar/mount, not the rear frame mount.

So they are quite fair and nice.

But, their product can’t stand up to the loads on the front of my camper. I plan to fabricate something that will.

The problem has been temporarily solved until I get in somewhere. The movement of the camper in the bed has been stopped. I did some blocking in the bed to hold it in place. It is still loosely held in the bed in the front by the broken frame mounts, but it’ll stay until I get in somewhere in October.

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