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Anne11

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Hi, I'm looking at a used 2002 Lance 1025 that comes with an old 1995 GMC Sierra 2500. We're also looking at ordering a new 2021 F-250 gas 4x4 long bed with the camper package and 18" tires - would we be able to use the 1025 on our new truck? It looks like the 2002 1025 weighs 2,467 lbs with a 10'6" length.

Should I be worried about getting an older camper that doesn't fit a new truck, or does every Lance camper fit all years of Ford trucks? Thanks!

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If you are entering TC World and buying new truck, get at least F350.
I would even suggest DRW as too many members here after years of struggling how to modify their SRW to carry heavy camper -ended with dually after all.
Dry 2400lb camper very likely will come to 4000 lb when loaded.





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No reason for an F250 if you are ordering a new truck. An F350 is not much more in price but adds a lot more capability - yet unloaded, there's no appreciable difference in ride or driveability.


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No reason for an F250 if you are ordering a new truck. An F350 is not much more in price but adds a lot more capability - yet unloaded, there's no appreciable difference in ride or driveability.


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It looks like the 2002 1025 weighs 2,467 lbs with a 10'6" length.


Figure closer to 3,000 lbs just for the camper. My 2004 Lance 815 has a listed weight of 1,800# with only option of AC. With my gear in my truck and camper packed for a long trip my stuff totals out to 3,900. So odds are your camper loaded and packed is going to be closer to 4,500 - 4,800# if there are only two folks. So why not get the F350 which would be better suited for the camper?


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Don't know if fits, easy enough to check, A being the most common issue.

  • 'A' from camper floor to underside of nose
    =minimum from Truck bed to top of cab (or cab ID lights if equipped). Ford cab is a bit taller so this more often problem with older campers
  • 'B' width of camper floor- rarely an issue
  • 'C' width of bump-out if it has. Total of B & C is needed minimum width of tail gate opening. On ours I need to load with camper pretty close to
    right wheel well for this bump-out to clear left tailgate pillar
  • 'D' Front of camper rubber bumpers to back side of rear wall.
    Minimum distance of trucks front bed wall to taillights. Again on ours, I had to add spacers behind campers rubber bumpers as camper was 1/4"
    away from taillights, least crooked loading and camper would be against one of the taillights.


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    With a loaded and wet 4,000 pound TC, you are not wise to consider a 3/4 ton truck.

    "or does every Lance camper fit all years of Ford trucks?" In the RV world everything does NOT fit all Fords or Chevys.


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    I thought that the F-250 with camper package had the same payload as the 350 - the camper package includes front springs, extra leaf on the rear and a stabilizer. How is the 350 better? Thank you for all of the advice!

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    Just because it has the same payload doesn't mean all the components are equally rated. I don't know that package, maybe they are but I would find out for sure. Are the axles, springs, brakes, sway bars, etc. all the same or does the F350 have stronger, more capable components? You can't have too much truck with a TC as they are always heavier than they say and heavier than you think. After hauling the same camper on a SRW and then a dually I would absolutely get the dually; it was a huge difference.

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    Anne11 wrote:

    I thought that the F-250 with camper package had the same payload as the 350 - the camper package includes front springs, extra leaf on the rear and a stabilizer. How is the 350 better? Thank you for all of the advice!


    As noted the Ford F250 and F350 SRW are basically the same truck with the latter having an extra leaf in the rear and higher rater tires. (maybe a sway bar?)

    The "major" difference is the mostly useless GVWR which on the 250 tops out at 10,000 GVWR and the 350 at ~11,500 GVWR.

    Door post 'pay load' is based on the mostly useless GVWR.

    In any application, watch the rear tire weight ratings. In ether case a decent sized camper loaded ready for camping will weigh close to over the ratings of the stock OEM tires.

    On my SRW the truck+camper+gear actual weight (rolled across scales) was within 100lbs of the maximum weight rating of the tires however the stock OEM tires had unexceptable sidewall flex causing unexceptable camper/truck sway so I upgraded to much better rated tires+rims.

    YMMV.


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    ^ More false info.
    Gvws are higher than what you posted on newer trucks, with the right options packages.

    Most of the replies are speculation. OP, a 250 with camper package will carry that camper the same as a standard 350.
    Dimensionally, 250/350 are the same so whether the camper fits is up to you to measure.


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