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ppine

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Posted: 09/18/20 10:18pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

"Don't buy anything you can overload."
Words of wisdom by sjm9911.
Pull something your tow vehicle can handle.
If you want to tow heavy things then get a bigger truck.

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Posted: 09/19/20 06:58am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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Should the GVWR be the deciding factor here? Or should some reasonable estimate on possible towing weight be more appropriate?

When buying a RV or a non rv trailer I use the trailer dry weight and take a look at GVWR.

I always weigh a new or new to me trailers axles before loading it. That way I know how much weight were adding on average.

Use you own judgement for a particular unit as they all have different CCC and we all don't carry the same necessary "JUNK" [emoticon]


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time2roll wrote:

I always recommend keeping the GVWR within the tow rating.


My thoughts as well.

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It depends on what you mean by "Dry Weight". Are you talking Brochure weights or actual scaled weight as it leaves the Factory??
Our current unit left the Factory 1000 Lbs more than the Brochure weight and on one of the RV Sales shows recently they had a question about the average cargo people carry, and the answer was 2000 Lbs, it really adds up quick.
I think using the GVWR is still the best number to use, especially when you consider the like 60 per cent are overloaded.


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Posted: 09/19/20 09:21am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Michelle.S wrote:

I think using the GVWR is still the best number to use, especially when you consider the like 60 per cent are overloaded.

I went by GVWR, when I purchased all three of my trailers. If I can tow up to GVWR with my tow vehicle and stay within all parameters, then I know Im good.

Where did you come up with 60% are overloaded? Or is that a guess?

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If a person is that concerned about weight that planning what gets brought what gets left home is a concern then that person either does not understand vehicles, does not have experience towing and/or is about to overload something and just “asking for a friend”....
In any of those cases, stop measuring how much milk your going to take and whether the propane is full or half full and just make sure your setup fits within the plethora of generally conservative recommended limits of both the vehicle and trailer.


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Posted: 09/19/20 11:18am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

We tend to store a lot of our outdoor/camping/hunting/etc. stuff in the trailer year round. I don't use that bone saw or block and tackle while we're camping but it's still in the camper, and that way I have it in the fall when I'm hunting. I also only travel with full fresh tanks. I also don't overthink this stuff and haven't ever run any of my setups over a scale. My approach is just my approach and if you're more careful about loading up extra stuff or keeping track of weights you can get by with a lower cargo capacity and smaller truck.


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Posted: 09/19/20 03:11pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Never heard anyone say they had too much truck. What ever you buy will gain weight just like we do, the older the more gained, unless you spring clean. Then out with everything I have not used in 3 months.


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Okay, maybe 50 to 60 percent overweight came from Escapee's Smart Weigh Folks in an article they published a while back.

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Posted: 09/22/20 09:43am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I would dare postulate that they're overloaded because they're towing trailers with ridiculously low CCC's. Many popups and single axle travel trailers are straining their GVWR's before you even put a 6 pack in the fridge.


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