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Posted: 09/29/20 04:20pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

JimK-NY wrote:

jaycocreek wrote:

To many people don't realize the importance of getting your refrigerator as close to level as possible therefore ,there refrigerator is dying a slow death and they don't even realize it..

I cannot think of any reason this should be so. Nor have I heard that slightly out of level will cause a slow death. In fact according to the specs I have seen there is considerable tolerance for being out of level.

Can you provide any citations or research results for this opinion?

I'll give one by dougrainer from an earlier discussion on to,same thing.


You REALLY do not understand the technology of RV absorbsion refers. It is NOT a factor of a few seconds off the life. My analogy (from my Dometic instructor 30 years ago) is like Heart Disease blockage of Ateries. EVERY time you operate off level, hours or days, the normal gravity flow of condensation of the Ammonia mixture is slowed/stopped and the Ammonia mixture deposts a microscopic hard substance on the upper tube and each time you run off level, that continues to happen as that small spot gets larger and larger. Once it gets large enough it stops the BEST cooling and it diminishes until at some point the refer CANNOT get the lower section to safe operating temps. Same with Heart Disease. You are born with free blood vessels but after years of eating the wrong foods that builds up on your arteries and that blockage finally gets large enough to cause circulation problems. This takes time and that is why RV'ers think level is a scare tactic because they have run off level and they see no apparent damage. But years down the line, they then get the bill. Doug

One more from a previous discussion on rv fridges being level

Contrary to popular belief for LONGEST life the fridge it MUST BE LEVEL as in ZERO BUBBLE WHEN IT IS STATIONARY, PERIOD. Level does not mean if you can comfortably walk or sleep, you can be way off level and still be "comfortable" with walking or sleeping.

RV fridge manufacturers also have a extra incentive to make a large tolerance on level, they GET to SELL you a new replacement FASTER if you follow the relaxed tolerances to boot.

Your body is a terrible way to measure slope, square, lengths and so on (sometimes I think my house was built using different carpenters which used their hands to measure things..) Nothing in my house is square, plumb or the same size.. Everyones perception is different and no body reacts the same way to slopes.

Dougrainer mentioned briefly that in a stationary condition running the fridge off level CAN and WILL start the crystallization process.

Once the solution starts to crystallize it IS IRREVERSIBLE and each time it is run off level it will get worse.

It IS safe to operate out of level PROVIDED your rig IS MOVING, the movement helps keep the solution from overheating and crystallizing.

A RV fridge replacement is not cheap, in fact it is the single most expensive item in a typical RV ranging from $1200- $2200 not including labor. Treat it right and you will get the max life out of it. Treat it wrong and you will have a very expensive mistake

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BurbMan wrote:

I was at the store today and picked up a couple of those bubble levels. I know on the TT I had one above the tongue jack and another on the side at the front corner. Wheres the best place to put them on the TC?

on my class a's (which I think would be similar to a pickup, I leveled the RV using a 4 foot level, plus some of the round, target bubble levels on the floor of the freezer, then took a target level and smushed it into silicone sealer on the console till it showed centered/level.
just pull into parking spot and wiggle around till that bubble is centered.


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Posted: 09/29/20 05:11pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

We've found the off-level specs for our last 3 fridges basically useless. One fridge would temperature spike under the slightest off-level conditions (less than 3 degrees), while our current fridge (with the same off-level specs) has yet to spike even when our truck camper is crazy off-level. No rhyme or reason. The only way you'll know what's going on is by monitoring the flue temps. An ARP Fridge Defend allows you to monitor the flue temps realtime. If you're off-level you'll see the flue temps begin to spike plenty of time before the unit shuts down your fridge. Plenty of time to make corrections before you incur a shutdown or suffer any permanent damage.


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The main issue for me is I don't want the bed to end up with the head lower than the foot.
Since I am now in a Class B, without jacks, I use the phone app, and set the phone on the floor near the driver seat, where I can see it. I work the rig around the campsite until I have it as close to level as I can.
Doing this I have never yet had to use my bag of leveling Legos.



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When I carried truck campers years ago most pickups on the road were std cabs. I leveled the camper floor with a 4' level. Then leveled the fridge in its cabinet. This was in the late '60s and '70s.
I used the small " long screw on type bubble on the exterior corner of the camper right behind the driver.
My dad had a cheap made Mid States TT in the late 70s. He leveled his camper from the fridge freezer. Mom complained about all the cooking grease running to one side of her pots/pans/skillets causing burnt fried foods.
One long rainy week end while camping I leveled the trailer for her then shimmed her fridge level while dad was out in the boat fishin'. WE didn't tell him how mom fixed her out of level stove top.

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I use a round level near the back step and store it in the drawer back there. I’ve found that good enough. Fwiw, I bought a replacment online. No air in that one. No, I didn’t return it but it was completely useless.

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Mine is inside the drivers door panel so I can pick a good stopping point while slowly rolling. for Side to side I can usually guess close enough.

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I have two at the front by the driver's corner jack near the front jack's control buttons and two by the rear jack and the rear jack control buttons (Mine are mounted on the jacks themselves, pre-remote control era Atwoods).

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On our last TC I put one level where I could see it in the drivers side mirror, and one right by the jack also.

As far as where to check for level, use the stove top. Make it so the eggs don't run to one side of the pan that way both the cook and the fridge will be happy.

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Man this means I have to level again when we find a TC? Been spoiled by the auto level on the 5th wheel. unhook hit auto level and hook up the power and water. By then its level and its fishing time.

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