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Terryallan

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Posted: 10/05/20 07:12pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

ADA6969 wrote:

With the truck weight at 12300 28" ext. I would only run about 400 lbs. on the hitch. New camper truck will be over 13,500. I would think I can run 400-500 lbs. on the hitch w/o WD Even though trailer weights 7500LBS ??????????


Your truck weighs 12,300 lbs???? Thats a big heavy truck.
at any rate, with a 7,500lb trailer. your tongues weight should be well over 800lbs. I don't know how you are going to unload the tongue to 400lb.


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We still don't know the trailer model.
When boat trailers track with 5% load on tongue just fine, typical cargo trailer will be prone to fishtailing with this weight distribution.
How sensitive the subject can be, on the mentioned cargo trailer I was carrying small bulldozers.
When I load it with plow forward - the trailer drove rock solid.
When I loaded it with plow to the rear - it become wind and road crown sensitive.
I observe to have load COG at right place all the time, so the difference was in air drag.

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Posted: 10/06/20 07:11am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Unless it is a very specialized trailer it's going to be tough to get the tongue weight down to 400-500lbs and have a stable tow.


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Buzzcut1 wrote:

don't guess. take the truck to a cat scale, weigh it, then reweigh with the loaded trailer attached. the added weight to the rear axle is your tongue weight


FALSE!
Tongue weight will increase drive axle weight by TW plus the weight transferred off steering by leverage.
To know the TW you need to subtract GW of the truck from GW of the combination to get weight of trailer. Then subtract the trailer axle weight from the calculated weight of trailer to get TW.

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I’ll check back later with popcorn.
Should be a really good conversation by then!


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JR take it easy.
Everybody on this forum is entitled to personal opinion [emoticon]

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Kayteg1 wrote:

JR take it easy.
Everybody on this forum is entitled to personal opinion [emoticon]


Yes everybody everywhere is entitled to their personal opinion. But when it comes to safety equipment, like what is needed to tow, everybody is NOT entitled to their own facts!

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JRscooby wrote:

Yes everybody everywhere is entitled to their personal opinion. But when it comes to safety equipment, like what is needed to tow, everybody is NOT entitled to their own facts!


Sometimes, both are facts in certain conditions. [emoticon] Buzzcut1 was talking about without a weight distribution hitch. You are talking with ...


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JRscooby wrote:

Kayteg1 wrote:

JR take it easy.
Everybody on this forum is entitled to personal opinion [emoticon]


Yes everybody everywhere is entitled to their personal opinion. But when it comes to safety equipment, like what is needed to tow, everybody is NOT entitled to their own facts!


That was irony JR.
For some reasons safety on this forum is very often overtaken by personal opinions.
This is the way it is.
I've been advocating to make sticky how calculate how COG applies to rear axle weight for years, yet 99% of forum members post here taxable numbers and have "personal opinions" how to apply actuall axle ratings.
Seems this is the way administrator like it.

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