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The only F150 that I would be interested in that I just found has the XLT black package on it, looks awesome and at the same price point, low 40's. It has a lower GVWR than the Nissan and Ram I am looking at by 300 pounds. I'm sure those airbags and shocks would be a huge difference. It is also rated almost identically to the Titan in max tow weight of 9100 or so pounds. Very few trucks are optioned with max tow packs in 1500's. I think they don't sell well and they figure you can buy a 2500 and be done.
The mountains in NC and VA where we go are pretty substantial too. I want to make sure I can keep my speed up. Didn't have an issue with our 04 Avalanche or the 13 F150 with that when I was pulling around 5500#.
I'm probably going to go with the Titan due to such great financing and it drove so solid. The suspension wasn't bouncy or floaty, felt solid like it would handle a load pretty well.


I rarely buy off the lot anyway so getting what I want isn't a problem. But, if you found a deal that you are happy with go for it and I wish you the best.

I am puzzled by your statements on power though. Nissan advertises that they have the most powerful standard engine but everyone else beats them with readily available engines. And the Titan requires premium fuel to get that power. In the mountains turbocharged engines generally perform better.

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I didn't have issues with my 5.3 V8 Avy or my 3.5 EB F150 in the mountains. I loved my 3.5 EB, but the new aluminum bodies and 10 speeds don't impress me at all. Every manufacturer has to embellish on their product vs the competition in some way. I only know it felt great driving it. 400hp and 413tq will more than do the job. The standard in the others are base model V6's.
The other issue with the F150 XLTs is they come with halogen headlamps.
Edit: Nissan specs 7300 GVWR 200A alternator 3.69 rear end gears

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Tbh, anything new should do a better job. I was surprised you avalanche preformed so well, i had the 5.3 in my 2012 seirra ( i think?) But then i remembered i think it was the new fule economy standerds that auto shifted the cylinders in the engine that i think was my problem. They took a second or more to respond to the gas pedal. I think they will have worked that out by now. The 2500s dont have the need to hit mpg standerds so no throttling.


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Deciding between two trucks by this weekend: 2020 Nissan Titan crewcab 4x4 with factory tow pack and a 2020 Ram 1500 Built to Serve Bighorn hemi etorque with tow pack and 3.21 gears. Main drawback to me vs 3.69 in the Titan. The Ram would cost me about $80 more a month. It does have led headlights which is a huge plus. Plan to test drive it Friday and decide.

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Deciding between two trucks by this weekend: 2020 Nissan Titan crewcab 4x4 with factory tow pack and a 2020 Ram 1500 Built to Serve Bighorn hemi etorque with tow pack and 3.21 gears. Main drawback to me vs 3.69 in the Titan. The Ram would cost me about $80 more a month. It does have led headlights which is a huge plus. Plan to test drive it Friday and decide.


The 8 speed Hemi “should” be slightly outclassed by the 9 speed Titan with a few more hp but etorque will level the playing field.
But you can get the Ram with 3.92 gears. So you’re not comparing apples to apples.


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We bought the Ram last night. They will have gears available in the near future, so if it feels like I need, I will pay to have them upgraded. It was for my wife, so the choice was ultimately hers. I will say after I drove it for the first time, I see why the Ram wins all the comparos. It is a truly fantastic vehicle to drive. The trailers we're looking at are 5500# UVW or less and we go tanks empty and use FHU wherever we go. We won't be over 6000# loaded, so I feel like this will serve us well. There was not another Ram comparably equipped with those 3.92 gears anywhere, or anywhere near the price of this Built to Serve package. It's truly a sweet looking truck in patriot blue.

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We bought the Ram last night. They will have gears available in the near future, so if it feels like I need, I will pay to have them upgraded. It was for my wife, so the choice was ultimately hers. I will say after I drove it for the first time, I see why the Ram wins all the comparos. It is a truly fantastic vehicle to drive. The trailers we're looking at are 5500# UVW or less and we go tanks empty and use FHU wherever we go. We won't be over 6000# loaded, so I feel like this will serve us well. There was not another Ram comparably equipped with those 3.92 gears anywhere, or anywhere near the price of this Built to Serve package. It's truly a sweet looking truck in patriot blue.


With the new 8sp transmissions the gearing isn’t as important. Should have no problem towing 6k.


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The new crop of Covid campers do not worry about ratings or payloads. They ran out and bought the longest, biggest trailer they could find or afford and most are pulling with 1/2 ton trucks along with a good amount of mid size SUVs thrown in for good measure.

Surprisingly they all seem to make it to the campgrounds where they make noise until 2 AM, run over marker posts and fire rings while spending 2 hours learning how to back up, and try to build campfires with green wood which end up smoking out entire counties. They also have to have every exterior light on from dusk to dawn for some reason.

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^ that isn’t me.

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The new crop of Covid campers do not worry about ratings or payloads. They ran out and bought the longest, biggest trailer they could find or afford and most are pulling with 1/2 ton trucks along with a good amount of mid size SUVs thrown in for good measure.

Surprisingly they all seem to make it to the campgrounds where they make noise until 2 AM, run over marker posts and fire rings while spending 2 hours learning how to back up, and try to build campfires with green wood which end up smoking out entire counties. They also have to have every exterior light on from dusk to dawn for some reason.


Isn't that pretty much how everyone started out untill they learned?

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