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Lantley

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Bird Freak wrote:

How about that. All the same old Ford bashers jumped right back on the wagon.

Ford deserves all the bashing they get from the 6.0 debacle from here to eternity.
Do you believe they should receive accolades?


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Lantley wrote:

Bird Freak wrote:

How about that. All the same old Ford bashers jumped right back on the wagon.

Ford deserves all the bashing they get from the 6.0 debacle from here to eternity.
Do you believe they should receive accolades?


I currently own 5 Ford vehicles so it is evident that I like Fords but in my experience their customer service is worse than useless. The last time I called them was about 3 years ago and all that they would tell me was to go back to my dealer. If my dealer was willing to fix the issues I wouldn't have been calling customer service. Fortunately the problems were minor so I decided to just live with them but every time they annoy me I think about Ford's customer service, or lack there of.

The 6.0 is still a drag on Ford's reputation and should have been fixed immediately. It wasn't like Ford didn't know how, International sold it as the VT365 and it had a great reputation although with probably a little more expense and a little less power.

Firestone's reputation still suffers from the failures they had with their first radials. I have seen studies that claim that other brands had just as many problems but had better customer service and did what it took to make the customers happy. Things like that can stick around for a surprisingly long time as Ford is learning again with this lawsuit 17 years after the defective product was sold.

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Bird Freak wrote:

How about that. All the same old Ford bashers jumped right back on the wagon.


Well the 6.0/6.4 bashing bandwagon has a lot of seats on it so....

Did you read the part about knowing the issues, citing the Class Action Lawsuit potential and trying to keep it quiet? Your good with that? If everyone that has issue with it is a Ford basher, than I guess being ok with it makes you a Ford apologist. There are seats on that bandwagon as well.


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ksss wrote:

Bird Freak wrote:

How about that. All the same old Ford bashers jumped right back on the wagon.


Well the 6.0/6.4 bashing bandwagon has a lot of seats on it so....

Did you read the part about knowing the issues, citing the Class Action Lawsuit potential and trying to keep it quiet? Your good with that? If everyone that has issue with it is a Ford basher, than I guess being ok with it makes you a Ford apologist. There are seats on that bandwagon as well.
No apologist here. I just have better things to do than harp on something for 17 years. By the way, my truck still runs great so not all were bad.


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Like with any consumer product, people don't necessarily never buy a manufacturer's products again if they have problems, but a lot of times it does depend on how the company responds to the problems.

My wife's uncle owned a Ford Taurus wagon that he complained about ignition issues with for a couple years and Ford steadfastly denied any issues existed. One day, they came out to the car on fire under their carport. Luckily, they were able to hold the fire at bay until the fire department arrived to finish the job so the house didn't sustain significant damage. The cause of the fire? It started in the area of the ignition cylinder. Ford continued to deny it was an issue. To this day, my wife refuses to even consider a Ford product based on this. She will tell you that it isn't that the car had issues, but it was the way Ford dealt with it.

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Bird Freak wrote:

How about that. All the same old Ford bashers jumped right back on the wagon.


HEY they have always made a good truck. I owned a great 69 Ranger F100. But you have to admit the 6.0, 6.4 and earlier 6.7's deserved critiquing. The newer 6.7's and truck seem to be doing well.


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you know I think I know about 20 people whi had 6L and the only ones that ever had issues were the ones that "tuned" the engines, the guys that left them stock love them.

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Bird Freak wrote:

How about that. All the same old Ford bashers jumped right back on the wagon.


Lets take a look at Ford history.
Cheaper to let Pintos explode rather than to retrofit a bladder.
Much internal discussion before they decided profits were more important than customer lives
Reduce recommended tire pressures in Explorers instead of designing the suspension they wanted.
Just a few lives there.

Ford has committed many other dubious acts.
Not saying other companies are immune, but Ford does deserve it's "bashing"
Is it bashing if it is a fact? or is it post 2016 news?

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StirCrazy wrote:

you know I think I know about 20 people whi had 6L and the only ones that ever had issues were the ones that "tuned" the engines, the guys that left them stock love them.

Steve


As I stated in the first post, my father-in-law tuned his 2003(he bought new) at around 120k, maybe sooner. He did not start having issues with it until around 290-300k. My brother-in-law has a tuned 2005 6.0L, but his is bulletproofed putting out about 400hp at the wheels.

* This post was edited 10/16/20 07:42am by ShinerBock *

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ksss wrote:

Bird Freak wrote:

How about that. All the same old Ford bashers jumped right back on the wagon.


Well the 6.0/6.4 bashing bandwagon has a lot of seats on it so....

Did you read the part about knowing the issues, citing the Class Action Lawsuit potential and trying to keep it quiet? Your good with that? If everyone that has issue with it is a Ford basher, than I guess being ok with it makes you a Ford apologist. There are seats on that bandwagon as well.
No apologist here. I just have better things to do than harp on something for 17 years. By the way, my truck still runs great so not all were bad.
Yet you always find time to post on here about it - big HO HUM


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