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Jas1317

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Posted: 10/16/20 12:13pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

wing_zealot wrote:

2012Coleman wrote:

My 3500 is my Daily driver - I don't know why that is a consideration - it's not a dump truck...
It's a consideration because some vehicles (like a F250 & F350) won't fit in some parking garages. Ask me how I know this. And that is just one example; there's also considerations like mpg for commutes to work, ability to fit between the gate posts to park behind the house, ability to fit in the garage (more real life experiences of mine), etc.


I’m okay with those kinds of limitations - we also have a midsize suv

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...Please tell me more about avoiding camping world. They had so many choices!...

In my case the bodybuilder sales manager got in my face to try to intimidate me into signing the contract. They had tried to paper shuffle to hide the numbers and then the 'just initial here' BS. Tactics that were lower than any used cars salesman i have ever heard of and i called them on it. Seems that crooked people dont like having the Truth pointed out to them.
Reported it to CW corporate management and all they did was shine me on. I take that to mean that the behavior is within corporate policy.

Look around there all you want, but buy from someone you can trust.

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GrandpaKip wrote:

camp-n-family wrote:

A model like our Keystone Bullet 31bhpr would fit the bill. There are several brands that have the same floor plan but I found the Keystone to be the lightest by a large margin and the quality was better than most.

It has a bunk room in back with king sized futon on the bottom and 2 single bunks above and decent storage. Outdoor kitchen with a sink (most nowadays don’t seem to have sinks anymore) and a 2nd entry door directly to the bathroom. A nice feature so the kids don’t track all the dirt through the trailer.

It’s 34’ tongue to bumper and only 6400lbs dry. 8k gvwr. I wouldn’t tow it with less than a 3/4t truck or van.

That leaves only 1600# for cargo and I’ll bet the “dry weight” is higher than advertised. Wouldn’t be surprised to see that trailer with about 1000# cargo. With your family, it will most likely be at max or over. That’s not a particularly good scenario.


1k of cargo still leaves 500lbs of payload. What’s the problem? Our trailer is stickered delivered from the factory at 6420lbs. (Might be 6240 as I always get the numbers mixed but it’s in storage and can’t be bothered to look. I went with the higher worst case scenario). It has plenty of payload left. Loaded for 2 week trips with our family of 4 and 2 dogs we regularly scale at 7600lbs with full fresh water and we don’t pack light. I scale it every trip as there is a granary around the corner. That still leaves another 400lbs. It also came with heavy axles (4.5k I believe) and D rated 15” tires unlike most TTs with axles rated less than gvwr that rely on the tongue weight to be carried by the TV so a little over won’t hurt anything.

As for the outdoor kitchen it comes down to personal preference but we won’t own another trailer without one. Absolutely love ours and do 95% of our cooking with it. Even in the rain as the large door overhead covers you. Having the second fridge and freezer, even though it’s only electric, is really handy. Another thing good with this layout is that the fridge and bathroom are both accessible even with the slides in.

Towed it with a half ton for the first 2 years. Plenty of power, not enough payload for tongue weight and all the passengers op has which is why I suggest nothing less than a 3/4 ton.


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Posted: 10/16/20 05:02pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

My only experience with Camping World, went to look at a trailer. The guy asked me what truck I had. He told me my 2500 could tow any trailer on the lot. Might need Air Bags... Also said you only need a dually for a large in bed camper. Needless to say, if a sales guy tells you your truck can pull any trailer, then you need a new sales guy. He is only interested in the sale. It's your problem once you drive off. So, know your trucks capability before you ask the sales guy.

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If your educated and not intimidated then deals can certainly be had at CW.

Bought 2 trailers there and never returned one for warranty......didn't say no issues though.

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Are there any campers that don’t have so many negative reviews?? There are SO MANY bad reviews!
Where we are in NY there isn’t much other than camper world!

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I only read the first page, so I’ll just summarize the right answer from the inevitable mind farking that has ensued.
If your tow rig has 13klb tow cap or more , get whatever TT that fits your budget and needs and the truck WILL tow it just fine.
And built in gen vs portable is subjective based on your use.


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valhalla360 wrote:

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valhalla360 wrote:

What is the truck that you have and what is the payload on the sticker on the door jam. Saying that it has to be a "daily driver" makes the 13.5k tow rating odd...

With some real details, that will tell us more about what you can really pull.


A 2500 pickup - daily meaning when we aren’t camping my husband will use it for work, drive around town, drive kids places, etc.


Year, make and model? Payload rating?

Once you are up to a 3/4 ton, the mention of daily driver is a bit of a red herring. We use ours as a daily driver but usually when people talk about daily driver, they are trying to get away with a marginal vehicle.

Trailer length is only marginally related to towing capability. What is the GVWR of the proposed trailers.


Doesn’t matter year make and model. Who cares ??? 13k+ means newer 3/4 ton which has ALL the numbers to yank ANY bumper pull camper around just fine.

You and others need to be less incessant with your questions. You just confuse others with your own confusion. If you don’t know what you’re talking about, it is best to pass on replying with your “opinion.”

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Or better yet, why don’t you weight cops put your money where your mouth is and tell the OP WHICH newer 3/4 tons WONT do what they’re asking about if you feel so strongly?
That wasn’t even their question to begin with.
Hint....the list will be very short..... like none!

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camp-n-family wrote:

GrandpaKip wrote:

camp-n-family wrote:

A model like our Keystone Bullet 31bhpr would fit the bill. There are several brands that have the same floor plan but I found the Keystone to be the lightest by a large margin and the quality was better than most.

It has a bunk room in back with king sized futon on the bottom and 2 single bunks above and decent storage. Outdoor kitchen with a sink (most nowadays don’t seem to have sinks anymore) and a 2nd entry door directly to the bathroom. A nice feature so the kids don’t track all the dirt through the trailer.

It’s 34’ tongue to bumper and only 6400lbs dry. 8k gvwr. I wouldn’t tow it with less than a 3/4t truck or van.

That leaves only 1600# for cargo and I’ll bet the “dry weight” is higher than advertised. Wouldn’t be surprised to see that trailer with about 1000# cargo. With your family, it will most likely be at max or over. That’s not a particularly good scenario.


1k of cargo still leaves 500lbs of payload. What’s the problem? Our trailer is stickered delivered from the factory at 6420lbs.

Sorry, I missed that it wasn’t the OP posting. My apologies.

* This post was edited 10/17/20 08:07am by GrandpaKip *


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