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gbsteph

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Posted: 10/19/20 04:57pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I think I can help. I purchased the Host Cascade in January of this year and it rides on the back of my Ram 3500 CTD 4WD Dually. As far as options go, you can't go wrong with the selections you made. As far as size for a family of four, well my opinion is that I didn't buy any kind of camper, truck-through Class A, to go sit in another version of my home. I RV camp to get back to nature and the outdoors and appreciate a warm/cool place to sleep with a bathroom and a kitchen. Yes it's nice to have a TV/DVD player etc for those unexpected rainy days, but I think you'll survive the smaller quarters just fine. I wish I would have elected to NOT get the Onan genny and devise a way to fit a smaller/quieter Honda genny in the empty cavity. That way, you take it when you need it, and don't have to haul the extra weight when you don't need it.

I live in Texas and purchased mine from Tom's Camperland in Mesa Az. Since I am out of state, they drive across state line into New Mexico to sign the papers, thus saving me the full sales tax. Had a friend that did the same. They are a great bunch of guys and the sale and process was easy. Sales guy was Allen Greeley, awesome guy...tell him Greg Baxter sent ya.

Now, for some after purchase facts. I weighed mine the other day, and I am 480 pounds over my GVWR of 14000 but under on both axle ratings with a slightly above average load. Yours may be more as it's a bigger camper. I'm comfortable with this and will adjust where I can to decrease it. I have always used air bags on my rear axle with my past and present truck camper just to level it out, because it will sag. I did install the Torklift lower Stable-Loads to engage my lower overload spring sooner. And may consider the uppers for the upper overload springs, and possibly a Sway bar. It handles pretty good as is, so I am going to give it some time to see if I need the other upgrades.

My other suggestion, is look it over VERY carefully. The quality is as good as any other, but I've already had issues with mine from the start. My fridge will cut out on AC power and not switch over to propane automatically. So I frequently have to check to see that it's on, cycle the switch and it starts right up. The Jensen RV stereo/CD/DVD player recently started cutting out and losing all volume in any mode. The rubber filler trim that covers the screws in the channel joints from the sides to the front bullnose both left and right sides have blown out at two different occasions. And, I've found loose sheet metal attach bolts that are stripped out on both slide out lower slide tracks. A few minor plumbing and shower leaks, some interior trim issues and the Water Heater Anode looked like it was 10 years old when I pulled it out to drain the WH. Now, all of this would be warrantied and if I lived in Mesa I would take it straight to them and I am sure they would rectify it. I've contacted them and they have been great about sending me parts to replace on my own such as the Anode and exterior trim. The Fridge and stereo (which you will have no way of knowing if they will fail) have to be diagnosed by an RV repair facility which I plan to do this winter. The loose slide out bolts, is poor quality in my mind and should have never happened. I will have that looked at this winter as well. So, again, take as much time as you need and go over it very thoroughly during your delivery. Check that all systems work and operate them as many times as you need to feel comfortable. I believe Host makes a good product and I'm sure once the bugs are worked out of mine, I will be even happier than I am now with it. After that, go and enjoy and make some memories. Hope I have been helpful. PM me if you have any questions I can help with.
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Thanks all for the feedback and advice! I have gone back and forth for a while now on whether a 5th wheel or truck camper is the better option for my needs. A couple things that lead me to the truck camper as the better option. When I considered a 5th wheel, the big concern is that I would have to store it about 45 minutes away (a couple reasons why that needs to happen). Second, I think about the large size of a 5th wheel is going to limit where I can camp and stop overnight while I am on my way to my destination. Seems it is harder to find RV campsites these days in many of the popular vacation spots without booking months ahead or just the size limitations. With COVID, seems everyone is RVing these days[emoticon]. I worry that I just wont use a 5th wheel as much because it seems like it will be too much advance prep and anxiety finding a spot for it to camp. It seems it will be much easier to load up the TC on the truck in 20 minutes and set off. There also seems to be a lot more places to camp in my opinion given the smaller size. Of course, the big downside with a TC is the size but I look at it this way. I usually stay in a hotel room with wife and kids while on vacation, honestly the typical hotel room probably not much bigger than the Everest[emoticon] On a rainy day my kids end up burying their heads in their Iphone or throw on the tv. My goal is to get them out of the camper and enjoy nature. I am looking at the Host Everest model as the rear slide has a 6 foot couch which one kid can sleep on and the second in the converted dinette. All other Host models seem to be really setup up to sleep 3 comfortably based on my conversation with Randal at Host.

Thanks gbsteph,zb39,and mike/kellie for the Host specific advice and sales recommendations[emoticon] It is sad that all these RV/Camper manufacturers just don't have the level of Quality Assurance/Control in place[emoticon] I am sure I will be reaching out with questions as I continue down this exciting journey [emoticon]

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We routinely travel 2 adults , 2 teenage boys, dog in a single slide TC. Love it. If weather is decent, boys bring a tent, but no big deal. We make it work. We don’t live in it...it’s a convenient way to travel.
Have fun, safe travels.
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I think a BigWig anti sway bar would be a good investment. When not carrying the camper you can back off the 2 jam nuts to disengage it for a better ride.


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Posted: 10/21/20 01:23pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Bandit400 wrote:

. . . I worry that I just wont use a 5th wheel as much because it seems like it will be too much advance prep and anxiety finding a spot for it to camp. It seems it will be much easier to load up the TC on the truck in 20 minutes and set off . . . I am looking at the Host Everest model as the rear slide has a 6 foot couch which one kid can sleep on and the second in the converted dinette. All other Host models seem to be really setup up to sleep 3 comfortably based on my conversation with Randal at Host . . .
The time to maneuver into a site aside, we've found "prep" time to load/unload or hitch/unhitch is about the same with a truck camper as it is with a 5th wheel or TT.

Have you checked out how much functionality you have with the Host Everest with the slides in?

One of the big turn-offs with a lot of units we've looked at in the past was the lack of functionality with the slides-in. Having to pop a slide just to make quick use of the bathroom or fridge while we're on the road was a no-go for us.

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I've got a TC and a 5th. Both are stored at our home. The 5th is much easier to get ready. Takes maybe 5 minutes to hitch it and have on the driveway ready to pack. The TC requires me to get the plywood out of the barn and put it in the truck bed, then drag the heavy rubber mat out and put that on the plywood. Then get the frame extensions installed, then the Fastguns. Then raise the TC and very slowly and carefully back under it. It's a high pucker factor with maybe 3/4" clearance on each fender. The TC is much faster to load because it's only me using it. My wife won't climb the scissor steps. It takes longer to load the 5th because of the wife's clothes and more of everything else because of the greater storage.
Going down the road the TC has the advantage of not worrying about how I am going to get out of a parking lot or a dead end street. The issue of opening a slide to use the restroom has never been an issue. That takes maybe 30 seconds of pushing a button. I frequently pull off the road and open both truck doors and stand next to the truck to pee. We have never stopped and fixed a lunch on the side of the road or rest area.
But the major advantage of the TC is I am not worrying about Chinese tires and Chinese bearings carrying a heavy trailer down the road.

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Posted: 10/22/20 09:03am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The ones complaining about using the slides may have Schwintek mechanisms. A couple of weeks ago we saw a new Lance and the slide takes two to three times longer verses the Powergear mechanism used in Host. It was one of the factors why we chose our brand over others. In one minute, I can easily have all three slides and the stairs extended (less if I am in hurry).

I do not know of any current Host layout that does not require opening the slide at least little to gain access. There are other manufacturers that have more friendly layouts allowing for use with the slide in, but all of them have a less amount of expanded room because they are single slide models.


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Thanks all for all the feedback[emoticon] A couple of additional questions.

Do you need to deploy jacks when having the slides out while the TC is in the bed of the truck?

Any issue using the TC resting just on the jacks without it mounted on the truck? Say I want to dismount it for a couple days while camping. Does the basement need to be supported?

Also, thoughts on Truma tankless water heater vs DSI Propane/Electric Water Heater?

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If you have Class 5 truck like mine, the suspension is firm enough that I do not drop the jacks unless I am removing the camper. Most of the Class 3 trucks I see drop the jacks just enogh to slightly unload the suspension to make a firmer foundation when walking around inside the camper. You do not need drop jacks to deploy slides.

The camper can be solely supported by the jacks when off the truck whether filled with water or empty. Some people prefer to add a backup support under the bed to reduce movement on the jacks and others use an anti-wobble system from StableCamper or Torklift to stiffen the front jacks on swing out brackets. I do not use any additional device or support when out camper is off the truck, but there were high winds, I probably would not unload the camper on to the ground since I have 11.5K lb truck sitting under my camper with it anchored at all four corners.

The first generation of tankless water heaters were not very reliable and had a bad reputation for failures. People also complain that more water needs to be run through them before hot water is deliver to your faucet, so they are not as water efficient. The ones I have seen are exclusively LPG, so you must have propane to get hot water. On the other hand, I see many more camper using these now and have not heard about exponential rises in failures. They are more efficient at heating water than maintaining a tank of hot water plus you can have an endless supply of hot when you are on hook ups. I have the dual element LPG/electric tank in mine. With the water flow set at 1/3 volume and both elements running, I can get 15 minute steaming hot showers and not run out of hot. Recycle time between showers is also fast with both elements running, but for this type of indulgence you need a large water source, a place to discharge it and electric to run the second element.

When we go to a campground with hook ups, my camper is switched to 100% electric and I only fire off the LPG water heater for those long showers or the LPG furnace if the electric fireplace cannot keep up with the cold (electric good for about 20 degrees Fahrenheit external temperatures).

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We have 40' fifth wheel that we have decided to leave at our snowbird site in central FL.'The reason, its to big to take into the small remote places we want to explore. We love the 5th wheel for our winter home, We plan to explore FL and the rest of the beautiful country, in a Lance 1172. Figure if we can get the truck there we will get our home there also. Its aaways a trade off. Make the memories, you won't be sorry.




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