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obgraham

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Posted: 10/21/20 11:48am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I don't see anything wrong with their asking price at 109. They will likely settle near what you quoted as the average retail.
Condition, mileage, and extras would be what I'd use to judge the difference within the NADA range.

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Sorry for your loss. Depending on how recent it was, I'd suggest maybe waiting a bit before you make any big decisions.
Going from a 40' A to a B is a huge difference. I might suggest renting one for a trip just to see the difference. Also depending on you situation, I might think about looking at selling the A while prices are up, and buying something else when prices settle some.


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Posted: 10/21/20 12:52pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Since nobody has asked the obvious question, I'll do so. What make, model, and mileage is this particular B?


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Sorry for your loss.

Likely owner figures with the hot market, he can ask a premium and someone will pay it.

That may be true, hard to tell.

I would go look at it just for the experience. Do some negotiation discussion to see how much flexibility there is and start to get comfortable with dealing in that environment (unless you already are).

I used to go to new car dealerships and see what kind of deals I could get, sharpen my negotiation skills, see what the latest strategies are etc.. I know this is private party, but some of the skills still apply.

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Posted: 10/21/20 03:41pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I find this interesting......

"I used to go to new car dealerships and see what kind of deals I could get, sharpen my negotiation skills, see what the latest strategies are etc.. I know this is private party, but some of the skills still apply"

After retiring from 30 years in the automobile business, and after running many sales training programs, I have found the following to be true:

1. It is almost impossible for a part-time buyer to out-negotiate a full-time seller. That's just the way it is.

2. From the sellers standpoint, no negotiation without commitment. Throughout my selling career, and as a sales trainer, the cardinal rule is "no price is the right price if it's the wrong vehicle" -- skilled salespeople know if you're a 'today' buyer or not, and adjust their negation techniques accordingly. No secret in the industry.

That being said, I personally HATE to try to buy vehicles nowadays!! The games, turnovers, and entire process just isn't what it used to be. I consider myself very fortunate that I know enough and have access to enough information that I plan to never set foot on a dealership's property again. Last 3 vehicles I bought online/phone. It keeps my blood pressure a good bit lower [emoticon]

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Posted: 10/22/20 05:02am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

mumkin wrote:

Personally I always found NADA pretty useless for Class B prices. Especially right now when there is an unusually high demand. People are getting top dollar.

I would recommend going to look at it, just for the experience. BUT...I think I would get that A sold, and window shop for a bit. See what is really out there in the market now and find the one that works best for how you want to use it. You don't want to spend $100K for a 4 year old rig when there are new ones out there for that price.

(Sorry for the loss of your husband... can you drive the Class A since you are full time)


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midnightsadie wrote:

take a friend or two with you,thats pushing the price of a new one.


My son is willing to go.

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BurbMan wrote:

Nada is a good resource, but demand is thru the roof due to COVID. Dealer inventory is at an all time low and the factories can't keep up with demand. The flip side is that you can ask a premium price for your RV too, so it's all relative.

RV Trader website is a good resource, you can look up the make/model B that you are looking at locally and see what other similar ones are selling for around the US.

You should also run your class A thru NADA as well and get an idea of what they say it's worth, then look up your model on RV Trader and see what they are selling for. That should give you some idea if the seller's "asking premium" is reasonable in this market.

Never hurts to go look at it, if you like it, offer what you think it's worth. There are a lot of variables like low mileage, stored indoors, new tires, transferrable warranty, luxury upgrades, etc., that may justify the asking price.


I have the printout on my Class A Phaeton.

Thanks for the suggestions.

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wowens79 wrote:

Sorry for your loss. Depending on how recent it was, I'd suggest maybe waiting a bit before you make any big decisions.
Going from a 40' A to a B is a huge difference. I might suggest renting one for a trip just to see the difference. Also depending on you situation, I might think about looking at selling the A while prices are up, and buying something else when prices settle some.


Thank you for the suggestions. I also have a B+. It is an R-Vision Trail-Lite 22 1/2 foot B+ we bought to take to Alaska. We liked her so much that we kept her and have used her multiple times. She is waiting patiently for me to get back home. My thoughts were to empty the Phaeton and sell her, then when I find the layout I want, I will be selling the little one. I have numerous people who have asked us to let them know when we are ready to sell her because she is in really great shape and low miles. I want to go a little newer and a different layout which is why I am looking. Adjusting to the size will be no problem.

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A1ARealtorRick wrote:

Since nobody has asked the obvious question, I'll do so. What make, model, and mileage is this particular B?


It's a 2016 Coach House Arriva with 12,500 on the MB diesel engine. It's not the molded type box like you see on the Platinums.

My Phaeton is a Cat diesel, but I know nothing about the MB diesel. Are they reliable?

Dale

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