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MGivens79

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Posted: 10/29/20 03:35pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

We are new to RVing, we just bought our first Travel Trailer. We did tons of research before buying. But, you don't know what you don't know and you don't know what to ask if you just don't know.

So far our first time buying experience has been a nightmare! I wont get in to all the details in this question. What I really want to hear opinions on is, is our trailer to big for our haul vehicle? Based on all the research and taking it out a few times we say no. BUT everyone tells us it is.

Part of the nightmare experience was not knowing we needed a weight distribution hitch with anti-sway for the monster we bought, no-one suggested it. We quickly realized we needed it. We got a blueox WDH with 1500lbs sway arms. Cool, the dealership we got the hitch from says the trailer is to big for our haul vehicle. The dealership we bought the TT from, said nothing of the sort, but also didn't say a WDH is a must either. All the research we have done says our vehicle is sized fine for the trailer - and pulls it fine - except the swaying. Which is hopefully fixed a little with the BLUEOX wdh.

Trailer: 2021 Greywolf 29TE - 36.5 ft in length - Hitch Weight:837 lb.GVWR:7837 lb.UVW6428 lb.

Haul vehicle: 2016 Cadillac Escalade ESV (exdented whhel base) - Towing capacity: 7,900 to 8,100 lbs - with a 6.2l V8

Is this trailer too big?

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Posted: 10/29/20 03:55pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I think so. Your Cad has a relatively short wheel base and gets jerked around by your trailer.

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Posted: 10/29/20 04:16pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

A mismatch in my opinion but I like a more than capable tow vehicle for safety and comfortable towing. I would keep gross trailer weight under 6,000 pounds for that tow vehicle.

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Posted: 10/29/20 04:31pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

What is the Cad’s payload maximum? How much weight do you carry in the Cad? People, pets, stuff. A photo of the door jam sticker would help too.


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Welcome to the forum. Sounds like your trailer sales person was not to informative. He should have told you all about what you need. Based on the numbers you provided I say you are in the zone for towing, but just barely. I will tell you you may want to also add rear tow vehicle air bag assist. You do have a brake controller? You will need one. I suggest you take the rig to a qualified shop and have them show you how to set it all up correctly then go for a short trip . There is alot of experience on this very helpful forum. Keep asking questions.


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Posted: 10/29/20 04:45pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Don’t focus on engine power. You have plenty for pulling. Think can my Cad carry the weight?

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Go to this website and read up, gather all the information, do the math, and you'll be a lot smarter and you'll be able to answer the question for yourself.Clicky

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Sounds like your selling dealership is in to profits rather than customer service or education. One thing I don't see in the discussion here is payload. Payload is how much weight (people, baggage, and tongue weight for the trailer) you can put on your tow vehicle. There should be a a sticker on the driver's door frame that says something like "Weight of passengers and cargo should not exceed..." with a number. The weight of passengers, your weight distributing hitch, anything else that you load in the SUV, and the tongue weight of the trailer should not exceed that number on the door frame sticker - regardless of whether or not the GVWR of the trailer is within the "Maximum towing capacity" listed for your specific vehicle. Use 13% of the trailer's GVWR for an estimated tongue weight: .13 x 7,837 = 1,018 lbs. If the Escalade does not have the payload available to handle the weights above, it's probably not safe - and will shorten the life expectancy of your SUV. Personally, I would not pull a 36' travel trailer with an SUV. Others will have differing opinions.

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I agree, you'll likely have very close to 1000 lb tounge.
I'll also be straight forward.

If your not towing in Colorado or WV you'll likely get by with a WDH but get those payload specs for your vehicle.

Payload always seems to run out first on these types of tow vehicles.

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In my opinion you need more truck. We have a 38’ tt. We started with a 06 Chevy 2500hd with a 6.0 and yes it pulled it, but then we got a 2020 Ford F-250 with the 6.7l diesel and even at 70 mph you can’t tell the camper is there. I don’t know anything about the Escalades but I’d say get more truck

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