RV GPS

[mikemc53]

How many use RV specific GPS apps as opposed to Google maps? I know about the actual RV GPS units by Garmin, TomTom, etc., but I am curious about apps. So far I have only used Google maps and have been lucky, with no mishaps, but just curious as to the thoughts of others.

Would not want to get into a situation where a low bridge or tight hairpin might become an issue.

Thanks in advance gang.

[doxiemom11]

We use google maps to avoid crowded cities and interstates. It does give low clearance warning if the route I am creating has any. It give me construction information also. I go in and look at the road, campgrounds, gas stations from streetview. I would be lost without it.

[lane_hog]

Ah, Street Atlas... how I miss that and don't. I get the small screen vs. large screen, but now that I'm back to a truck & trailer, I don't have room for a laptop while moving like I did with the motorhome and the area in front of the doghouse...

Prior to getting our Android Auto enabled Ford, I was running Google Maps on either an Android tablet or iPad, both which had GPS capability.

This past summer, I downloaded our entire itinerary from Chicago to Yellowstone with some buffer knowing that there'd be no cell service inside the park. Worked fine. But yeah, not much planning capability.

[Matt_Colie]

Matt_Colie wrote:
Mike,

We are also from Michigan (not a great thing these days), but when crossing the UP our phones ran into a few holes where even with the outside antenna and a repeater there was no signal to be had. Fortunately, we do our primary navigation with a stand-alone GPS. We are not "blue road" travelers and have run into this more than a few times.

Matt

Stepnwolf wrote:

If you choose the option to download the maps to your phone when you do have a signal, you don't need a cellular connection to use the phone GPS option.

Stephenwolf,

People keep telling me that. I have done that with varying degrees of success. We like to navigate with something more readable than a cell phone. Gmaps on a laptop can't get real time GPS input.

Then there is the problem that you have to know in advance (by a whole day or more) where you are going to be. That has failed us miserably on several occasions now. Strangely, none were in the UP. With our outside antenna and repeater, we do pretty well. The problem with anything other than a stand alone GPS is that we are not blue roads people. We also are the type that changes plans on a whim (or an interesting road sign).

Street Atlas is dead and there is no planning package that can replace it and all its functions. It at least had a full map available and with some pretty good detail. As an enroute package, when combined with a real GPS device it was a wonderful thing.

As much as I like the Garmin instruments, Base Camp should embarrass them. But that along with all the other web based planners are useless for us most of the time and sure can't enroute navigators.
Matt

[one_strange_tex]

I would like to add that my Garmin has successfully routed us around interstate closures or heavy traffic due to a incident on the highway. You can pretty much trust the routing. Again: the program knows your rig type and dimensions to select the alternate road.
However, Garmin's routing, from what I can tell, may not be as "real time up-to-date" as Waze or Google Maps. For instance, I have had it try to route me around bottlenecks, when, having decided to go on through them, turned out to have cleared. On another occasion, Garmin tried to route me miles way out of the way to an alternate crossing of the Mississippi River. The problem was some road closures due to flooding in eastern Arkansas the night before. Pulling over, I checked the highway department site and determined that they had reopened and the Garmin router had not yet got the word.
This reemphasizes what others have said. Pick your tool, but don't use just one tool. Use your judgement and cross check various sources if in doubt. Going over the route the night before and satellite checking the next scheduled stop are good ideas, too.

[lane_hog]

I stick with Google Maps and use the offline maps option. It works well via Android Auto in the head unit of our Ford, and it's one less device to have to worry about keeping current.

That said, I cross-check it's suggestions on a RV route to make sure it doesn't route us onto county roads, which in many states can be gravel. Ask me how I found that out...

So far, we've done OK since ditching our Garmin. I'd also recommend keeping a printed Trucker's Atlas just in case so you have the low clearance bridges marked. Anywhere a truck can go, you should be able to go...

[PawPaw_n_Gram]

I vastly prefer a stand-alone RV GPS. We actually have two, a Rand-McNally which I like because of several additional features such as fuel mileage tracking.

Also we have a GARMIN. I find Garmin traffic superior to any other system, even Google Maps or WAZE - because it works on traffic on my route, and KNOWS my 60 ft total length cannot go onto normal city streets most of the time. I do not care about the major traffic delays on another freeway.

The MAIN reason though is that I tell the GPS the route I want to take. Seldom to I take the GPS recommended route without checking it over closely. They are made to accept my alternative waypoints to shape the route.

I do sit down the night before travel every time and look over the route with the GPS and some checking with my cell phone, and a map, maybe electronic or paper.

For longer tows into areas where I have not been in a few years, or have never been - I check state DOT websites for information on construction on the planned route.

I used Google or Bing Maps and look at the satellite views of major freeway intersections, looking for changes which even apps which Google Maps do not seem to know about. I've seen Google more than once route me though a major freeway intersection to go upon ramps which are no longer present, miss new ramps which are visible in the Satellite View.

The key is that you be comfortable with the device/app, and have a system what you use to ASSIST you in keeping track of where you are and the next turn. Your co-pilot should also be familiar with the system so the driver does not have to make adjustments to the device.

If you miss a turn and feel you are going the wrong way or such. STOP (off of a freeway) and then look at the tools available to help you.

[rdhetrick]

Garmin RV 770 user here. I travel a lot (30,000 miles a year) and love it. Don't have to worry about having cell signal and don't have to remembering to download maps ahead of time. I like that it avoids low height and weight roads. I have lifetime map updates, seems like the updates are available about every 6 months. The only downside is the traffic feature doesn't work as well as google maps on the phone.

I set the Garmin to the destination for the day, and have free use of the phone. I'll use the phone to navigate to stops during the day like fuel and rest areas.

If you're on the move a lot, I'd recommend a dedicated RV GPS. If you just travel occasionally, you're probably fine with just a smartphone.

[Rover_Bill]

An RV specific GPS (when RV enabled) will tend to route you on commercial grade roads where your RV requirements (length, height, weight) will be supported. The Google GPS assumes you're driving a 4WD drive car and will route you on the shortest path to your destination including dirt roads, low bridges, and tight switchbacks. I use both - plan and drive the route on my Garmin RV-660 but use Google GPS on my phone for current road conditions. (The Garmin also has a good backup camera.)

[caver]

I use a Garmin Montana 600. I also can move it over to my dual sport when I go exploring. It's loaded with City Navigator and Topo. I use a RAM mount system.

[one_strange_tex]

I use an RV version of Garmin. Many disparage the software, but not the hardware due to a definite learning curve, but I have found it useful.

Pros:
* You put in the dimensions of your RV and it tries to keep you on routes suitable to your rig. It is especially helpful on low clearance overpasses. It seems to have up to date information and has saved me on at least two occasions (meaning warn me when I was approaching, having departed from the planned route it laid out for me to begin with).
* It includes (or you download) a route planner (BaseCamp) where you can lay out your entire trip itinerary with fuel stops and overnight stops including travel times, etc on your computer. Then you can transfer it to the GPS device. This is one element where the "learning curve" complaint comes into play. Many prefer a simpler process.
* You can add points of interest (POI's) including fuel stops, rest stops, stores and RV parks to the BaseCamp data for planning. A lot of information is available on line to give a more comprehensive list than is available in BaseCamp itself (or all the other planning tools mentioned so far). Again, this capability adds to the learning curve.

Cons:
* It sometimes routes you around things that are probably OK, for perhaps dubious reasons. For example, it doesn't seem to like traffic circles ("roundabouts"), some of which, having seen them, I felt were navigable in my rig.
* The aforementioned learning curve. It helps to be somewhat familiar with computers, syncing devices to computers (like you would your phone, tablet or MP3 player) as well as downloading computer files. Google Earth for viewing stops and destinations with the satellite view is also very handy.

My two cents.

[Stepnwolf]

mikemc53 wrote:
How many use RV specific GPS apps as opposed to Google maps? I know about the actual RV GPS units by Garmin, TomTom, etc., but I am curious about apps. So far I have only used Google maps and have been lucky, with no mishaps, but just curious as to the thoughts of others.

Would not want to get into a situation where a low bridge or tight hairpin might become an issue.

Thanks in advance gang.

Are you only looking for GPS info, i.e. routes? There are a multitude of RV/camping apps for both Android and IOS.

I have a wide variety of apps related to traveling, camping, etc.

All Trails
Allstays
Boondocking
Bureau of Land Management
Campendium
Campfinder
Casino Camper
Cellphone Coverage
Coverage?
Free Roam
freecampsites.net
Gas Buddy
Go Rving
Good Sam
Google Earth/Maps
Harvest Host
Highway Weather
Hipcamp
KOA
Mountain Directory
National Forest Service
National Park Service - Find a Campground
National Parks by Chimani
Oh Ranger
Recreation.gov
ReserveAmerica Camping
RV Parks & Campgrounds
RV Parky
RV Trip Wizard
The Dyrt
TripAdvisor
Trucker Path
Ultimate Public Camp Grounds
US Public Lands App

[Stepnwolf]

Matt_Colie wrote:
Mike,

We are also from Michigan (not a great thing these days), but when crossing the UP our phones ran into a few holes where even with the outside antenna and a repeater there was no signal to be had. Fortunately, we do our primary navigation with a stand-alone GPS. We are not "blue road" travelers and have run into this more than a few times.

Matt

If you choose the option to download the maps to your phone when you do have a signal, you don't need a cellular connection to use the phone GPS option.

[azdryheat]

Google Maps and Motor Carrier's Atlas for me. My truck has GPS in the dash but it's 7 years old and hasn't been updated ($$$).

[Matt_Colie]

Mike,

We are also from Michigan (not a great thing these days), but when crossing the UP our phones ran into a few holes where even with the outside antenna and a repeater there was no signal to be had. Fortunately, we do our primary navigation with a stand-alone GPS. We are not "blue road" travelers and have run into this more than a few times.

Matt