Good Sam Club Open Roads Forum: truck camper and towing a flat trailer advice
Open Roads Forum Already a member? Login here.   If not, Register Today!  |  Help

Newest  |  Active  |  Popular  |  RVing FAQ Forum Rules  |  Forum Posting Help and Support  |  Contact  

Search:   Advanced Search

Search only in Truck Campers

Open Roads Forum  >  Truck Campers

 > truck camper and towing a flat trailer advice

Reply to Topic  |  Subscribe  |  Print Topic  |  Post New Topic  | 
Page of 3  
Next
rockwind1

las vegas

Full Member

Joined: 06/26/2011

View Profile


Offline
Posted: 10/31/20 09:27pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

i have a 2001 f350 super duty diesel, 7.3L) 4wd 4 door SWR (single rear wheel)

my gvwr is 9900 lb my front axle is 5200lb, my rear axle is 6830lb with my stock tires 265/70 r17,

my rear axle is 3450lb it's a good truck, 4 door with 8 ft bed. i want to tow a flat trailer,, or even enclosed trailer, but probably flat with my 4runner on it. i am going to get a truck camper but i wanted like the biggest one, cause they are kinda cramped.

my question is,,, if i want to tow something,,, can i still get like an 11 ft ish camper? or will that be a huge problem when towing something? what is a good size camper to still tow?

also,, any tips on buying a camper? what to avoid? don't need anything fancy but don't want some moldy leaking roof POS either. which brands have best reputation for not having to fix stuff every day?

thanks, kevin

* This post was last edited 11/03/20 10:04am by rockwind1 *   View edit history

Kayteg1

California > Nevada

Senior Member

Joined: 06/18/2015

View Profile


Offline
Posted: 10/31/20 11:43pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I've been hauling 2 Bobcats at the same time with 7.3 in F450, so engine might be lower power than new models, but will get job done.
Now camper + trailer? I hope you have dually as with SRW forget about stinger, so max camper can be like 8-9'
Still will not give you much of tongue weight to play with.





KD4UPL

Swoope, VA

Senior Member

Joined: 03/16/2008

View Profile



Good Sam RV Club Member

Offline
Posted: 11/01/20 05:57am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

If you don't have a dually I wouldn't try the "biggest one". Even a dually of 2001 vintage would be grossly overloaded by the largest truck campers. Some of the large triple slide units weigh around 5,000 pounds EMPTY. You can expect between 6,000 and 7,000 pounds when fully loaded with water, propane, batteries, food, clothing, etc. Many people that get these large campers use a 4500 or 5500 series truck with a custom flatbed to haul them.
As for length, you will need a Super Hitch and Super Truss extension, both made by Torklift. The 48" extension should be long enough to tow behind most any length camper out there. I used one behind my 11' camper to tow my 4,500 pound boat or utility trailer. The hitch extension is rated for 12,000 pounds of trailer weight but you have to use a weigh distributing hitch above 6,000 pounds which you would likely be with a 4 runner on a flatbed.
Lance, Eagle Cap, Host, and Arctic Fox are likely the brands you want to be looking at if you want a big camper. If you've got a SRW truck and want to tow a 4runner I would advise not going larger than a 9' or 10' camper. But really, weight is the question. You need to weigh your truck empty and pay attention to your rear axle weight. Subtract that from your RAWR on the door sticker and that's how much camper and tongue weight you can add to the truck. I think you'll be disappointed. If you're one of those people that things you can't go over the GVWR on the truck then your plan probably won't work unless you get a pop-up type camper. I'm not one of those people.

Lwiddis

near Bishop, California

Senior Member

Joined: 08/12/2016

View Profile



Good Sam RV Club Member

Offline
Posted: 11/01/20 07:21am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Suggest you do a bunch of reading and study before you make any purchases. Most 350s are close to max with big TCs wet and loaded. Lance estimates its 1172 is 4628 pounds ready to go.


Winnebago 2101DS TT & 2020 Chevy Silverado 1500 LTZ Z71, 300 watt solar-parallel & MPPT, Trojan T-125s. TALL flag pole. Prefer USFS, COE, BLM, NPS, TVA, state & county camps. Bicyclist! 14 year Army vet-11B40 then 11A - (MOS 1542 & 1560) IOBC & IOAC grad


rockwind1

las vegas

Full Member

Joined: 06/26/2011

View Profile


Offline
Posted: 11/01/20 07:43am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Kayteg1 wrote:

I've been hauling 2 Bobcats at the same time with 7.3 in F450, so engine might be lower power than new models, but will get job done.
Now camper + trailer? I hope you have dually as with SRW forget about stinger, so max camper can be like 8-9'
Still will not give you much of tongue weight to play with.


thanks! it is a SRW. guess i was overly optimistic

rockwind1

las vegas

Full Member

Joined: 06/26/2011

View Profile


Offline
Posted: 11/01/20 07:47am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

KD4UPL wrote:

If you don't have a dually I wouldn't try the "biggest one". Even a dually of 2001 vintage would be grossly overloaded by the largest truck campers. Some of the large triple slide units weigh around 5,000 pounds EMPTY. You can expect between 6,000 and 7,000 pounds when fully loaded with water, propane, batteries, food, clothing, etc. Many people that get these large campers use a 4500 or 5500 series truck with a custom flatbed to haul them.
As for length, you will need a Super Hitch and Super Truss extension, both made by Torklift. The 48" extension should be long enough to tow behind most any length camper out there. I used one behind my 11' camper to tow my 4,500 pound boat or utility trailer. The hitch extension is rated for 12,000 pounds of trailer weight but you have to use a weigh distributing hitch above 6,000 pounds which you would likely be with a 4 runner on a flatbed.
Lance, Eagle Cap, Host, and Arctic Fox are likely the brands you want to be looking at if you want a big camper. If you've got a SRW truck and want to tow a 4runner I would advise not going larger than a 9' or 10' camper. But really, weight is the question. You need to weigh your truck empty and pay attention to your rear axle weight. Subtract that from your RAWR on the door sticker and that's how much camper and tongue weight you can add to the truck. I think you'll be disappointed. If you're one of those people that things you can't go over the GVWR on the truck then your plan probably won't work unless you get a pop-up type camper. I'm not one of those people.


thanks,, that is good info,,, i dont' like to exceed ratings that is for sure. what is sad is a few years ago i had a dually truck but sold it cause at the time i was hunting a lot and the roads didn't really like the dually.

Kayteg1

California > Nevada

Senior Member

Joined: 06/18/2015

View Profile


Offline
Posted: 11/01/20 07:53am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

rockwind1 wrote:

... the roads didn't really like the dually.

Funny you said it in Las Vegas.
I moved here from San Francisco Area 4 years ago and still admire how good and wide streets Las Vegas has.
Most of neighborhoods in Bay Area have cars parked solid on both sides of the street, so passing dually between them could be a challenge, while having a car coming from opposite direction was a disaster.
Coming back to your question - read what ratings your rear axle has and drive the axle on scales to have starting weight number.

Grit dog

Black Diamond, WA

Senior Member

Joined: 05/06/2013

View Profile


Offline
Posted: 11/01/20 09:34am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

If you’re a stick to the “ratings” guy, do the math before proceeding any further.
Even still the big TCs are too much for a srw without major mods and throwing out the ratings.


"Yes Sir, Oct 10 1888, Those poor school children froze to death in their tracks. They did not even find them until Spring. Especially hard hit were the ones who had to trek uphill to school both ways, with no shoes." -Bert A.

JIMNLIN

Oklahoma

Senior Member

Joined: 09/14/2003

View Profile



Posted: 11/01/20 06:49pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Your older F350 SRW may have a 6830 rawr and is good for around 3300-3500 lbs in the bed.
Ne F350/F450 DRW pickups have the same 9900 rawr and good for a little over 6000 lbs in the bed. Maybe less with a crew cab long bed 4wd. Now add a trailers 800-1000 lb hitch weight.

A F450/4500 cab and chassis with 12k RAWR is good for over 8k+ rear axle payloads. All numbers depends on axle weights.


"good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" ............ Will Rogers

'03 2500 QC Dodge/Cummins HO 3.73 6 speed manual Jacobs Westach
'97 Park Avanue 28' 5er 11200 two slides

rockwind1

las vegas

Full Member

Joined: 06/26/2011

View Profile


Offline
Posted: 11/02/20 04:30am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

JIMNLIN wrote:

Your older F350 SRW may have a 6830 rawr and is good for around 3300-3500 lbs in the bed.
Ne F350/F450 DRW pickups have the same 9900 rawr and good for a little over 6000 lbs in the bed. Maybe less with a crew cab long bed 4wd. Now add a trailers 800-1000 lb hitch weight.

A F450/4500 cab and chassis with 12k RAWR is good for over 8k+ rear axle payloads. All numbers depends on axle weights.


do airbags help at all?

Reply to Topic  |  Subscribe  |  Print Topic  |  Post New Topic  | 
Page of 3  
Next

Open Roads Forum  >  Truck Campers

 > truck camper and towing a flat trailer advice
Search:   Advanced Search

Search only in Truck Campers


New posts No new posts
Closed, new posts Closed, no new posts
Moved, new posts Moved, no new posts

Adjust text size:




© 2021 CWI, Inc. © 2021 Good Sam Enterprises, LLC. All Rights Reserved.