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rockwind1

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Supercharged111 wrote:

mkirsch wrote:

rockwind1 wrote:

thanks,,, my gvwr is 6300 lb my front axle is 3000lb, my rear axle is 3450lb with my stock tires 265/70 r17


Are you SURE about that?

Those sound like F150 numbers, and a pretty light duty F150 at that.

Usually a 2000's era SRW F350 has a GVWR of around 10000lbs, a front axle rating of 5000lbs+ and a rear axle rating of at least 7000lbs.


This. My 1500 has ratings right at the numbers the OP is spouting off. My 97 GMC dually has a RAWR of 7500, but the axle itself is rated to something like 8700# last I checked. 3500# axle ratings get you NOWHERE, as in 500# of tongue weight and no camper whatsoever.


guys, my apologies,, that is actually my 4runner specs, i was going off a picture i took while ordering some stuff online for my 4runner, i thought it was the picture i took of my f350 tag. oops, i really thought those numbers were low as well. here is real info.

my gvwr is 9900 lb my front axle is 5200lb, my rear axle is 6830lb with my stock tires 265/70 r17

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So your truck can accept about 3800 lb on rear axle.
If you put 500 lb tongue on long stinger - you will put close to 1000 lb on rear axle from trailer alone. That will not give you much capacity for big camper.
If you put 1500lb tongue, you have no cargo capacity left (unless you can put it on front).
Other option is to tow 4-Runner on its wheels, if you have transfer case with neutral on it.

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Can you flat tow the Toyota?


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You can flat tow everything.
The only question is how much money are you willing to put for the option.

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Kayteg1 wrote:

So your truck can accept about 3800 lb on rear axle.
If you put 500 lb tongue on long stinger - you will put close to 1000 lb on rear axle from trailer alone. That will not give you much capacity for big camper.
If you put 1500lb tongue, you have no cargo capacity left (unless you can put it on front).
Other option is to tow 4-Runner on its wheels, if you have transfer case with neutral on it.


my 4runner does have a neutral for the transfer case but it is an automatic transmission,,,for some reason, growing up, i was always taught not to tow something with an auto tranny over say 25mph, unless the engine was actually running while you towed it. i wonder if that old school thought still applies to my 4runner

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Can you flat tow the Toyota?


so you are suggesting i stay with about a 2500 lb camper? are those hard to find? i am guessing a 8 or 9 footer max then?

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my 4runner does have a neutral for the transfer case but it is an automatic transmission,,,for some reason, growing up, i was always taught not to tow something with an auto tranny over say 25mph, unless the engine was actually running while you towed it. i wonder if that old school thought still applies to my 4runner

When you put transfer case into N, the movement will never be transferred to transmission.
I read that H2 actually has special procedure for flat towing with AT.

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Go to a Toyota forum for info. Your question can be answered there better than here. I quickly looked and the unanimous response was no. Year/model might differ and more than one referred to their owner's manual.
It would be the same asking the Toyota forum about truck campers. It's a small audience with that knowledge.


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rockwind1 wrote:

Kayteg1 wrote:

So your truck can accept about 3800 lb on rear axle.
If you put 500 lb tongue on long stinger - you will put close to 1000 lb on rear axle from trailer alone. That will not give you much capacity for big camper.
If you put 1500lb tongue, you have no cargo capacity left (unless you can put it on front).
Other option is to tow 4-Runner on its wheels, if you have transfer case with neutral on it.


my 4runner does have a neutral for the transfer case but it is an automatic transmission,,,for some reason, growing up, i was always taught not to tow something with an auto tranny over say 25mph, unless the engine was actually running while you towed it. i wonder if that old school thought still applies to my 4runner

I flat towed a CJ5 Jeep with nothing more than a $50 JC Whitney tow bar.

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rockwind1 wrote:

TxGearhead wrote:

Can you flat tow the Toyota?


so you are suggesting i stay with about a 2500 lb camper? are those hard to find? i am guessing a 8 or 9 footer max then?


I have no idea how hard it would be to find. I had a 8ft Tejas TC that I hunted out of for years. Colorado and Texas. Fished Arkansas. Vacation to Yellowstone with wife and baby. Smaller is frequently better.

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