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JIMNLIN

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Posted: 11/02/20 06:09am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

IMO not with severe overloading issues as your looking at.
A fawr/rawr is the lessor of a wheel....tire....spring pack....or the axle assy itself....especially the trucks rear axle.

There has been a picture posted a few times of a F350 ??/TC with air bags with a broken main frame rails over the axle where the shock attaches. I believe the owner was using 100 ?? psi in the bags to level his severally over loaded truck.

I'm not sure what the '01 Fords SD rear axle mfg rating is on your older truck. Using that number as a max then up rated rear spring packs, from a spring shop, for that load ....19.5" wheel and tires might be a way to go. Other TC owners have done that so maybe they can tune you in on what your real world issues will be for your '01 F350 SRW.


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Grit dog wrote:

If you’re a stick to the “ratings” guy, do the math before proceeding any further.
Even still the big TCs are too much for a srw without major mods and throwing out the ratings.


oops, clicked the wrong "quote"

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JIMNLIN wrote:

IMO not with severe overloading issues as your looking at.
A fawr/rawr is the lessor of a wheel....tire....spring pack....or the axle assy itself....especially the trucks rear axle.

There has been a picture posted a few times of a F350 ??/TC with air bags with a broken main frame rails over the axle where the shock attaches. I believe the owner was using 100 ?? psi in the bags to level his severally over loaded truck.

I'm not sure what the '01 Fords SD rear axle mfg rating is on your older truck. Using that number as a max then up rated rear spring packs, from a spring shop, for that load ....19.5" wheel and tires might be a way to go. Other TC owners have done that so maybe they can tune you in on what your real world issues will be for your '01 F350 SRW.


oops, edited, was looking at wrong pic on my phone

thanks,,, my gvwr is 9900 lb my front axle is 5200lb, my rear axle is 6830lb with my stock tires 265/70 r17

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KD4UPL wrote:

If you don't have a dually I wouldn't try the "biggest one". Even a dually of 2001 vintage would be grossly overloaded by the largest truck campers. Some of the large triple slide units weigh around 5,000 pounds EMPTY. You can expect between 6,000 and 7,000 pounds when fully loaded with water, propane, batteries, food, clothing, etc. Many people that get these large campers use a 4500 or 5500 series truck with a custom flatbed to haul them.
As for length, you will need a Super Hitch and Super Truss extension, both made by Torklift. The 48" extension should be long enough to tow behind most any length camper out there. I used one behind my 11' camper to tow my 4,500 pound boat or utility trailer. The hitch extension is rated for 12,000 pounds of trailer weight but you have to use a weigh distributing hitch above 6,000 pounds which you would likely be with a 4 runner on a flatbed.
Lance, Eagle Cap, Host, and Arctic Fox are likely the brands you want to be looking at if you want a big camper. If you've got a SRW truck and want to tow a 4runner I would advise not going larger than a 9' or 10' camper. But really, weight is the question. You need to weigh your truck empty and pay attention to your rear axle weight. Subtract that from your RAWR on the door sticker and that's how much camper and tongue weight you can add to the truck. I think you'll be disappointed. If you're one of those people that things you can't go over the GVWR on the truck then your plan probably won't work unless you get a pop-up type camper. I'm not one of those people.


thanks,, great info!

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Kayteg1 wrote:

rockwind1 wrote:

... the roads didn't really like the dually.

Funny you said it in Las Vegas.
I moved here from San Francisco Area 4 years ago and still admire how good and wide streets Las Vegas has.
Most of neighborhoods in Bay Area have cars parked solid on both sides of the street, so passing dually between them could be a challenge, while having a car coming from opposite direction was a disaster.
Coming back to your question - read what ratings your rear axle has and drive the axle on scales to have starting weight number.


hi kaytag,,, so you are in vegas? small world. when i talked about roads,, i mentioned it in a hunting context,,,,alot of hunting roads are very narrow,, sometimes 2 track. that is what i meant. the roads here in vegas are fine,,, some of the parking lots being modeled after california, are a total pain in the butt to drive my 33 ft fifth wheel thru though,,,,

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rockwind1 wrote:

thanks,,, my gvwr is 6300 lb my front axle is 3000lb, my rear axle is 3450lb with my stock tires 265/70 r17


Are you SURE about that?

Those sound like F150 numbers, and a pretty light duty F150 at that.

Usually a 2000's era SRW F350 has a GVWR of around 10000lbs, a front axle rating of 5000lbs+ and a rear axle rating of at least 7000lbs.


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When you say you want to haul a 4 runner on a trailer are you talking about a Toyota 4runner SUV or a Honda/Suzuki/etc off road ATV/UTV?


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mkirsch wrote:

rockwind1 wrote:

thanks,,, my gvwr is 6300 lb my front axle is 3000lb, my rear axle is 3450lb with my stock tires 265/70 r17


Are you SURE about that?

Those sound like F150 numbers, and a pretty light duty F150 at that.

Usually a 2000's era SRW F350 has a GVWR of around 10000lbs, a front axle rating of 5000lbs+ and a rear axle rating of at least 7000lbs.


This. My 1500 has ratings right at the numbers the OP is spouting off. My 97 GMC dually has a RAWR of 7500, but the axle itself is rated to something like 8700# last I checked. 3500# axle ratings get you NOWHERE, as in 500# of tongue weight and no camper whatsoever.


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TxGearhead wrote:

When you say you want to haul a 4 runner on a trailer are you talking about a Toyota 4runner SUV or a Honda/Suzuki/etc off road ATV/UTV?


i was thinking of towing my toyota 4runner on a flatbed.

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mkirsch wrote:

rockwind1 wrote:

thanks,,, my gvwr is 6300 lb my front axle is 3000lb, my rear axle is 3450lb with my stock tires 265/70 r17


Are you SURE about that?

Those sound like F150 numbers, and a pretty light duty F150 at that.

Usually a 2000's era SRW F350 has a GVWR of around 10000lbs, a front axle rating of 5000lbs+ and a rear axle rating of at least 7000lbs.


guys, my apologies,, that is actually my 4runner specs, i was going off a picture i took while ordering some stuff online for my 4runner, i thought it was the picture i took of my f350 tag. oops, i really thought those numbers were low as well. here is real info. honest mistake.

my gvwr is 9900 lb my front axle is 5200lb, my rear axle is 6830lb with my stock tires 265/70 r17

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