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Groover

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4x4ord wrote:

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Looks like they've flattened out the torque curve of the 6.7 some: 475 HP @ 2600 rpm ... or is that a misprint?


I am seeing the same numbers in the 2020 towing guide.

Ford 2020 towing guide


That makes sense. Somewhere I had read that the 2020 Powerstroke was rated at 475 HP @ 2800 rpm. Apparently that was wrong information.


Edit: Here is one of various places I can find the 2020 Powerstroke rated at 475 HP @ 2800 rpm:click

Edit: Maybe the 2020/2021 Powerstroke makes 475 HP from 2600-2800 rpm.


I think that Ford needs a proofreader. I noticed a pretty obvious error in the 2021 towing guide where they were updating some numbers and missed one item.

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Grit dog wrote:

So now the F150 is max tow rated exactly the same as the best equipped F250 gasser (with 4.30s and no wd).
This is going to blow the minds of the uninformed and melt the internet weight police's keyboards at the same time!


The internet weight police have been off for a few years. [emoticon]


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Toolguy5 wrote:

Grit dog wrote:

So now the F150 is max tow rated exactly the same as the best equipped F250 gasser (with 4.30s and no wd).
This is going to blow the minds of the uninformed and melt the internet weight police's keyboards at the same time!


The internet weight police have been off for a few years. [emoticon]


My experience towing my trailer with an F250 was that I would use a weight distributing hitch for towing a trailer over 10,000lbs regardless of what the manual says, at least for going far or regularly. Short, occasional trips might be OK but not regular ones.

The F250 4wd is rated to tow 15,000lbs, or 1200lbs more than the comparable F150. But that is a lot closer than it used to be!

The frame for the 2021 F150 has been strengthened to handle the heavier trailers.

Frame improvements

This is reflected in a change to formula for setting up a weight distributing hitch for the 2021 F150, calling for twice as much weight to be moved to the front axle.

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What does this mean?!?! In the tow guide right under the 150s ratings...

Maximum payload and towing capabilities are for properly equipped vehicles with required equipment and a 150-lb. driver and passengerand vary based on cargo, vehicle configuration, accessories, option content and number of passengers. See label on door jamb for carrying capacity of a specific vehicle. Horsepower, torque, payload and towing are independent attributes and may not be achieved
simultaneously. For additional information, see your Ford Dealer.

Does this mean 300lbs is kept off that tire and payload rating sticker for 2021?!?!


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What does this mean?!?! In the tow guide right under the 150s ratings...

Maximum payload and towing capabilities are for properly equipped vehicles with required equipment and a 150-lb. driver and passengerand vary based on cargo, vehicle configuration, accessories, option content and number of passengers. See label on door jamb for carrying capacity of a specific vehicle. Horsepower, torque, payload and towing are independent attributes and may not be achieved
simultaneously. For additional information, see your Ford Dealer.

Does this mean 300lbs is kept off that tire and payload rating sticker for 2021?!?!


If you look at the slide in camper section of the F150, each vehicle configuration has it's payload number listed on the chart. But at the very front of that chart area, you will see what constitutes that determination. But you will also see that it doesn't assume how many people your hauling. So the final payload will be the number on the chart PLUS 150lbs for each and every seating position on the truck. That means an additional 900lbs for a bench seat truck.

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LERD wrote:

librty02 wrote:

What does this mean?!?! In the tow guide right under the 150s ratings...

Maximum payload and towing capabilities are for properly equipped vehicles with required equipment and a 150-lb. driver and passengerand vary based on cargo, vehicle configuration, accessories, option content and number of passengers. See label on door jamb for carrying capacity of a specific vehicle. Horsepower, torque, payload and towing are independent attributes and may not be achieved
simultaneously. For additional information, see your Ford Dealer.

Does this mean 300lbs is kept off that tire and payload rating sticker for 2021?!?!


If you look at the slide in camper section of the F150, each vehicle configuration has it's payload number listed on the chart. But at the very front of that chart area, you will see what constitutes that determination. But you will also see that it doesn't assume how many people your hauling. So the final payload will be the number on the chart PLUS 150lbs for each and every seating position on the truck. That means an additional 900lbs for a bench seat truck.


Just so long as you don't need that payload for the RV....IE: you NEED a driver, so what is the point of adding that in as payload?


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LERD wrote:

librty02 wrote:

What does this mean?!?! In the tow guide right under the 150s ratings...

Maximum payload and towing capabilities are for properly equipped vehicles with required equipment and a 150-lb. driver and passengerand vary based on cargo, vehicle configuration, accessories, option content and number of passengers. See label on door jamb for carrying capacity of a specific vehicle. Horsepower, torque, payload and towing are independent attributes and may not be achieved
simultaneously. For additional information, see your Ford Dealer.

Does this mean 300lbs is kept off that tire and payload rating sticker for 2021?!?!


If you look at the slide in camper section of the F150, each vehicle configuration has it's payload number listed on the chart. But at the very front of that chart area, you will see what constitutes that determination. But you will also see that it doesn't assume how many people your hauling. So the final payload will be the number on the chart PLUS 150lbs for each and every seating position on the truck. That means an additional 900lbs for a bench seat truck.


Nope, wrong. Unless I forgot how to read. Accounts for 2 - 150lb occupants, not 6. But who cares? If one is predisposed to adding up every ounce of “cargo” and thinks the payload number is that magical, then.... you be you.


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