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specta

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Kayteg1 wrote:


In the mean time you enjoy great performance and save time gassers spend at fuel pumps.
Additional brake wear on gassers can be added to calculation.


The additional time at the gas pump must add up to years.
Do the brakes on gassers wear out faster than the brakes on diesels?
Or is it caused from all of those additions stops at the gas stations?

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Do the brakes on gassers wear out faster than the brakes on diesels?
Or is it caused from all of those additions stops at the gas stations?

LOL


It's called an exhaust brake. Going down a steep grade I rarely need to touch the brakes. That old Cummins seems to hold back as strongly going down the hill as it does pulling up the hill.

My rig with the V-10 seems to freewheel down a hill in comparison.


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I haven't kept up with the details of the F450 pickup in the last year couple of years. I know that it was originally an F450 cab and chassis modified for a pickup bed. Ford had so many complaints about it being heavy with poor fuel economy and low speed rating (due to the 19.5" tires) that after about 2 years they went back to the F350 with a beefier rear axle for towing and a wide front but otherwise all the same limitations as an F350.


You’ve got it in reverse. There were only a couple of years that the F450 didn’t have the heavier suspension/tires. I think 2012-2013, but maybe someone else knows.


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It's called an exhaust brake. Going down a steep grade I rarely need to touch the brakes. That old Cummins seems to hold back as strongly going down the hill as it does pulling up the hill.

My rig with the V-10 seems to freewheel down a hill in comparison.


I haven’t had any issues with Fords going downhill if you are in tow/haul mode. Gasoline engines do engine braking by default. That’s not the case with a diesel.

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It's called an exhaust brake. Going down a steep grade I rarely need to touch the brakes. That old Cummins seems to hold back as strongly going down the hill as it does pulling up the hill.

My rig with the V-10 seems to freewheel down a hill in comparison.


Engine braking is something that my truck does lack. Like yours its like having two neutrals.

But with 216,000 miles on my factory brakes it doesn't seem like much of an issue.

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deserteagle56 wrote:

It's called an exhaust brake. Going down a steep grade I rarely need to touch the brakes. That old Cummins seems to hold back as strongly going down the hill as it does pulling up the hill.

My rig with the V-10 seems to freewheel down a hill in comparison.


I haven’t had any issues with Fords going downhill if you are in tow/haul mode. Gasoline engines do engine braking by default. That’s not the case with a diesel.


When I had a truck camper the air drag took care of most situations. I got by with engine braking in low speed situations. And that was with rear drum brakes and carrying a family of 6 in 12ft Caribou. I don't recall ever changing brakes because they wore out. They were due to oil leaks or sticking calipers.

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Groover wrote:

I haven't kept up with the details of the F450 pickup in the last year couple of years. I know that it was originally an F450 cab and chassis modified for a pickup bed. Ford had so many complaints about it being heavy with poor fuel economy and low speed rating (due to the 19.5" tires) that after about 2 years they went back to the F350 with a beefier rear axle for towing and a wide front but otherwise all the same limitations as an F350.


You’ve got it in reverse. There were only a couple of years that the F450 didn’t have the heavier suspension/tires. I think 2012-2013, but maybe someone else knows.


The F450 pickup started with the 2008 model year, and has never been just a cab and chassis with a factory installed pickup bed. Cab and chassis trucks have straight frame rails behind the cab. The F450 pickup has never had that.

The 2011-2014 F450 pickups were almost identical to the F350’s of the same model year. I honestly don’t know what the difference between them was other than the badging for those years. They didn’t have 19.5” tires, didn’t have the Dana S110 rear axle, or the bigger brakes that went with those. Not sure about the wide-track front axle for those years, but the 2008-2010, and 2015-2016 F450 pickups all had 19.5’s, Dana S110, bigger brakes, and a wide front axle.

I’m not as familiar with the 2017 and up F450 pickups, but it appears you can order them with 19.5’s, or some other more traditional size tires, which I would think would directly affect the axle, brake and suspension components that would go with the non-commercial tire sizes.

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The additional time at the gas pump must add up to years.
Do the brakes on gassers wear out faster than the brakes on diesels?
Or is it caused from all of those additions stops at the gas stations?

LOL


I actually missed the issue of brakes wearing while making frequents stops at gas pump.
But knowing you pull a trailer on mountain roads, I bet you ride the brakes quite a bit.
My set was 7 tons with camper only, or close to 10 tons with boat and I could drive 200 miles without touching the brakes.
When I don't hesitate to drive 80 mph downhill, engine brake gives me all the braking I ever need.





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jimh425 wrote:

Groover wrote:

I haven't kept up with the details of the F450 pickup in the last year couple of years. I know that it was originally an F450 cab and chassis modified for a pickup bed. Ford had so many complaints about it being heavy with poor fuel economy and low speed rating (due to the 19.5" tires) that after about 2 years they went back to the F350 with a beefier rear axle for towing and a wide front but otherwise all the same limitations as an F350.


You’ve got it in reverse. There were only a couple of years that the F450 didn’t have the heavier suspension/tires. I think 2012-2013, but maybe someone else knows.


Check out this video around the 40 second mark.

2011 F450 review

They may have gone back to the heavier suspension but I don't remember seeing that.

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Groover wrote:

They may have gone back to the heavier suspension but I don't remember seeing that.


I agree that they switched away for a while and NRALIFR said 2011-2014. Newer models of the F450 are back to 19.5s and the heavy suspension.

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