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Heading to AZ mid-November, and I'd very much like to avoid going over the Grapevine near Lebec, CA both for weather risk and ease of driving. Is anyone familiar with a less wintery route that might make the trip a bit easier? Travel time isn't really an issue...
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#1Flyboy
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Hwy 395 is a lot nicer if passes are open....
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Ed_Gee
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Or go down 99 to 58 and route yourself that way...
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Flyboy’s idea if passes open. Otherwise, Ed’s.
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Any way you go, there is a pass. IMO all these passes are easy to drive. But of course, you should check the weather before you go.
I would avoid the Grapevine, not for your reasons, but to avoid the mess of the greater L.A. area. Just south of Lebec/Gorman, you could take 138/14/138/15/215/10. You'll hit Cajon Pass when you get to I-15.
You could go to Bakersfield and take 58 east, going over Tehachapi Pass, to 395 to 15, etc.
You could continue on 58 east to Barstow, then I-40 all the way to AZ and take AZ95 south by Lake Havasu and Parker (along the Colorado River) to Quartzsite. This is the one I might choose, since you have time, just for a nice drive.
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travel times no issue, I-5 to I-10 10 to Yuma 95 north to Quartzsite.
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Ummm...I-10 goes straight to Quartzsite. Maybe Edd505 means I-5 down to I-8 to Yuma?? I certainly wouldn't want to drive in all the southern CA traffic to go that way. And of course, it doesn't avoid the Grapevine.
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Janss wrote:Ummm...I-10 goes straight to Quartzsite. Maybe Edd505 means I-5 down to I-8 to Yuma?? I certainly wouldn't want to drive in all the southern CA traffic to go that way. And of course, it doesn't avoid the Grapevine.
Yep mind fart,I-5 - I-8 then north on 95. Long way around but be said time was not an issue. Thanks for the correction.
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58 East seems to make the most sense to me... by the way, 35' MH w/toad...Diesel 340
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There's also the 101 if you don't like the other routes. I think the 58 through Tehachapi is your best bet though.
As you weigh the risks and discomfort of the various passes, take a look at the olden times. Beales Cut used to be THE way in and out of L.A.
https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/beales-cut
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