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Tequila

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coloradotallman wrote:

Lou; Seeing we now winter in Mazatlan, curious to know which hospital?


Sharp is good, but they are pricer. i ahd insurance and wasin there 3 days.

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Actually Sharp was the hospital we took my brother too. $500 seemed amazingly cheap to us for an overnight ER stay and various tests.

Also, regarding the comment about Canadien health care costs, it may be inexpensive, but all I ever hear from Canadien friends down here are complaints about the wait times for receiving treatment through the public health option. Seems a downside not often reported. Some report waiting 6-9 months or more for procedures like hip replacements and the like. They are now exploring their options here even if they have to pay out of pocket as they want to get things done sooner.


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At least here in Zihuatanejo there is a big price difference between the public and private hospitals. Sharp in Mazatlan is a private hospital.

If he had had the hernia surgery in the public hospital, the price, we are told, would have been half of what we paid. Not the personal care, I would have had to spend the night there if he were to stay over. Very different.

However, if money is tight, it is a very viable option.

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Lou Morris wrote:

Actually Sharp was the hospital we took my brother too. $500 seemed amazingly cheap to us for an overnight ER stay and various tests.

Also, regarding the comment about Canadien health care costs, it may be inexpensive, but all I ever hear from Canadien friends down here are complaints about the wait times for receiving treatment through the public health option. Seems a downside not often reported. Some report waiting 6-9 months or more for procedures like hip replacements and the like. They are now exploring their options here even if they have to pay out of pocket as they want to get things done sooner.


Wait times for some non emergency procedures, but I have also heard of people waiting for knee replacements etc in the uS. I do know when my wife got breast cancer she was admitted within the week and underwent 2 years of chemo at no cost. Same for my mom when she broke her hip. It has been under more pressure over the last couple of decades as the population ages and the demand on the system increases, but i dont encounter anyoen who would trade it for a user pay system. I think my bill at sharp was about $1200 for 2.5 days with a private room. I did see the bill, but my insurance paid it. They charged me $60 fro a A1C and cholesterol lab tests last year.

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Doesn't anyone get it? In order to get reduced medical prices you have to pay for it one way or the other. If you live where the prices are reduced your taxes will be much different.


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352 wrote:

Doesn't anyone get it? In order to get reduced medical prices you have to pay for it one way or the other. If you live where the prices are reduced your taxes will be much different.


But, do we have to include the cost of all the drug ads on TV, all the health care provider ads on TV................?

Not sure any of those contribute anything to health care except COST.

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No public health system is perfect. In many areas of Canada a non emergency mri could take 3 months. Knee or hip from one to 2 years.Not enough specialists so they admit foreign Docs
Some are great but many should not have a license. In some provinces Goverments have reduced health care budgets.With the Covid crisis the systems are in chaos.

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In Mexico there are over 52 different governmental social insurance programs. For years I thought the only one was IMSS. There is also ISSTE (for teachers), Seguro Popular (now INSABI), ISSTELEON (for state workers of Nuevo Leon), PEMEX, LISSFAM (for military personnel) and just about all the other states have their own social medicine for their state workers.

There are great differences between them all. Some of the best are the state worker programs. ISSTELEON is probably better than most major private hospitals. SO has had two knee surgeries both within the two weeks of diagnosis and they both were farmed out to Level A private hospitals.

Currently, for ISSTELEON, doctor's visits are on Zoom or telephone, along with prescription renewal and pickup is less than 24 hours. COVID tests are included now and all is no charge. Everything is computerized. There is ever little to no waiting for treatment or service.

What can I say, I live in a great state and I am sure there are others as well in Mexico.

My IMSS will be free for life this next August, I currently pay 10,000 pesos a year. I most likely won't be eligible for Medicare since U.S. social security has me listed as living in Mexico. I am currently looking at private policies.

This is a shortlist of some of the many private insurance companies and their prices. The first line is a 2 million dollar policy with a $1500 USD deductible and an annual cost of $2000 USD. There are different levels of private hospitals; A,B,C, and in most cases it is not just service but private rooms, suites, or basic 2 bedroom hospitals. This is much cheaper than what I would pay for Medicare. After all, a bypass at Doctor's or Christus Muguerza is less than $75,000 USD.

How would I use Medicare anyway? Traveling back and forth, plus emergency care, etc? I know ex-pats that do that for some of the silliest things.

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Great information that we are going to share with friends here. Thanks!!!

We feel like you do about Medicare. We, and likely you too, qualify for Medicare part A. So what?

I can't seem to get your charts slider to let me see the other options. Is it just me?


Thanks for sharing this info.

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Daamn, boy. Yeah, it is always better to stay away from bees. Sometimes they are so mad.

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