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notsobigjoe

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JRscooby wrote:

patperry2766 wrote:

What about getting one from a junkyard? Lots of vehicles go because of body damage but a perfectly functional and low mile drive train.

If you like the truck and it wouldn't be too much of a PITA, you could look to swap out for a 6.4


Back in the day replacing a engine with newer or bigger was a piece of chicken. Now, with all the electronics might be smart to buy the complete wreck to be sure you have all the parts.


I did not replace mine I rebuilt it from the cam up. It is a 1996 Vortec so its 25 years old. We think the cam was warped but nothing we did diagnosed the problem so me and dad just went ahead and rebuilt it. The motor itself is all mechanics very technical mechanics but still mechanics. "Moving parts" Everything we took of the top of the motor was technical. Something newer I would agree that a more modern mechanic with the know how of all that stuff would have better luck. But I agree in the end if you like the truck it would be simply be penny's on the dollar from buying new. Also like in my earlier post depending on what you want it would come completely assembled and all you'd do is switch em out... JMHO

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Well, I have to put about $1k into it (brakes, rear seal, some belts, oil chg., road test, compression test, checking/testing here and there, some other stuff I forgot, etc., etc.). But, he gave it 2 thumbs up for 'easily' 50,000+ more miles. OK - so, peace of mind and my decision can be delayed. (At 'that' juncture, however, the 6.4L Hemi with 8 spds. is starting to look pretty good.)

Thanks much for the comments, options and help!

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Unless you do the work yourself, you'll be puting more into the truck than it's worth, then you'll be married to it. Then the trans or rear end or AC or computer, or any other big ticket item could go out. If you really love that truck and want to hang onto it, find a Hemi with 100k miles or less for about $800, swap it in yourself. Then you wont be buried in it. Look at an 2009 -2010. They are much nicer trucks than the 2005's.


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When the 360-1 in my Dodge finally gives up, its getting either a 413-3, 440-3, or I may see if I can graft in one of those medium duty diesel engines from an older Isuzu or Mitsubishi box truck from when they were close to all mechanical, and little to no electronics.


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Why wouldn’t you put in a 6BT Cummins? Same no-electronics deal, better power, and it bolts right in


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I bought a '96 F-250 with a good body and interior. Engine had a bad cylinder so I got the truck for $600. It had 112Kmiles on it. I bought a rebuilt engine from Jasper for $2500. Done the swap myself in the garage. This was in 2017. In June of that year we drove to Alaska, spent over a month exploring the last frontier! Truck ran great, still does. Have put 45K miles on the engine. I like the older body style. I built my own custom flatbed to fit my camper. Works great and have had many people come up and tell me Cool Rig! Have no plans for trading for newer. I am old school, like my truck the same way. To each his own. My younger brother just dropped a wad of cash on a 2020 F350 Platinum. Yikes I don't have that kind of money, this one works for me.


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Grit dog wrote:

But think about it this way. The thing that leaves you on the side of the road at midnight in the middle of no where as you put it, is not catastrophic engine failure. It’s about 95% likely it’s something else. Either something that also should be wore out by now, something that has had some symptoms but was “still fine”, or something newer or old that randomly stops working.


100% agree here. I sold my 2001 2500 Suburban this spring with 180k miles on the 8.1L big block. Motor was never opened, not even the valve covers, just oil/filter every 3k miles. Ran as strong as the day I bought it.

However, everything that bolted to the motor was replaced over time, and stuff usually failed on a road trip pulling the trailer.

When the truck was fairly new in 2005, the a/c compressor grenaded and took out BOTH front and rear a/c systems. Since it was VA Beach in August, the trailer spent the week at the CG, the truck spent the week at the dealer, and we spent the week in a rented Matrix.

Alternator, power steering, radiator, water pump, brake lines, fuel pumps (8.1 burbs had 2), exhaust (twice), transmission (twice), etc etc.

The transmission quit on a camping trip and left me stranded in a CG for 2 weeks while a Jasper was secured and installed. The Jasper rebuild was defective, and although covered under Jasper warranty, left me stuck in another CG after only 10k miles on the unit.

So my point is that Grit Dog is 100% on this one...if you decide to replace the motor, you need to replace all of the peripherals and accessories to get "new truck" reliability....and even then there's no guarantee you won't break down.

Good that you are thinking about alternatives and planning ahead but IMO it's too early to dump any major money into that truck. Spend the $1k your mechanic recommends and go from there.


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When I bought my old 1976 ford 3/4 ton with a 390,it had a new long block in it..I did have to replace a few minor things but when I sold it a few years ago,I would not have hesitated to take it to Arizona or where ever,it was that reliable..

Any truck can break down including new ones except repairs on new ones, just out of warranty, are quite a bit more expensive...

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Breakdowns and fails can happen at anytime regardless if a truck is brand new or of older age. It seems to be the luck of the draw. I have had many issues with my second gen Dodge, but the money it costs for a new truck way outweighs the cost of replacing parts that go bad. Luckily I have a manual transmission, which in my opinion is way more reliable than an auto in a dually truck. I bought this truck with 5k miles on it...long story but...you will always have repairs, it is a machine and how it gets used depends on how much your maintenance will be. If it is paid for...well that is your choice if you want to sell it and go back into debt....unless you got loads of money to invest and you can take the depreciation....go for it.

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burningman wrote:

Why wouldn’t you put in a 6BT Cummins? Same no-electronics deal, better power, and it bolts right in


More readily available, sadly. Folks want a mint for a Cummins, out this way.

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