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Tal/IL

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Posted: 12/21/20 08:26pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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We eat simple foods, but seek out the best ingredients and use good technique.


It looks like you've gotten a wealth of advice, but your comment brought an incident to mind.

Some years ago we attended a charity event that featured tasting plates by notable chefs from the region. At one point, a young woman who I did not recognize circulated through the crowd with a large tray of bite sized pieces of meat. To this day, I think it was the best single bite of meat I have ever had. And, trust me, I know something about meat. She thanked the crowd for all the compliments, and revealed that there was no secret to it. It was merely an excellent piece of goat loin, seasoned with salt and pepper and properly cooked. The young lady, it turned out was Stephanie Izard.


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Mmm goat, I like goat almost as much as deer.

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propchef wrote:

gbopp wrote:

What is the towing capacity of your X5? That will be a good place to start.


It's a Class 3, so 6000 lbs GVW and 600 lb tongue. BMW forbids the use of load stabilizing hitches. I'd rather stay in the 20-22 ft range.

Again, just the two of us so we won't be loaded up.


Hi,

Trying to be helpful as you explained you are new to travel trailers.

Something is not adding up with what you said above. If BMW forbids the use of a weight distribution (WD ) hitch, but you found somewhere where it listed 600 lb tongue weight.

That small of a SUV to be able to handle a 600# weight carrying trailer tongue with no WD hitch, sort of points to overloading the rear axle with the rear overhang of the truck.

Where did you get the info of "Class 3, so 6000 lbs GVW and 600 lb tongue." spec from? Was this a sticker on the receiver of the truck, or did this comes from the owners manual?

What year and make up of the X5 do you have? They seems to have several models with engine and seating differences that change the truck ratings. I found this 2019 X5 owners manual online, https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1571400

Page 395 and 396 of that manual talks about "Load" (payload) of the truck pending what model, engine and number of seats you have.

And it talks about "Maximum draw bar nose weight" and "approved rear axle load" and "Approved Gross vehicle weight"

What does your owners manual state?

Your vehicle may be new enough that on the drivers door sticker it lists the available payload for your VIN truck. Have a look there, that is better then the manual even.

Ideally also knowing what the rear axle weight is before adding the trailer would help too. You may have to make a trip to the scales to get actual axle weights with both adults and other must have cargo inside the truck with a full tank of gas to sort out how much loaded trailer tongue weight you can carry. And without being able to use a WD hitch, there is a leverage magnification of the rear overhang of the truck that adds to a rear axle issue. Adding 400# of loaded camper weight, adds more than that to the rear axle due to the distance from the center of the rear axle, to the tow ball (rear overhang) which acts as a lever increasing the weight at the axle.

You may have the engine and drive train to pull a small camper, but the truck has to be able to handle the loaded tongue weight of the camper, any cargo items in the truck and occupants. And all that without using a WD hitch.

There is a lot of fine print in vehicle ratings that apply to towing travel trailers, they all have to fit, not just a tow rating. Having towed travel trailers with SUV's before, I learned the hard way where all the weak areas are on a SUV. Many times, it comes down to not enough payload capacity or rear axle capacity or both. Once you know where to look, then you can sort this out too. Just trying to help you not make the same mistakes many do all over again.

Hope this helps

John

* This post was edited 12/22/20 04:42am by JBarca *


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Posted: 12/22/20 06:31am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

propchef wrote:

Edd505 wrote:

Rear Kitchen
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What is that?


Something wayyyyyy toooo biggg for your BMW.

Someone made a comment about getting an enclosed trailer and having it fitted out for you. Given that your budget is in airstream levels, that's actually a viable option if you can find a good carpenter who understands that it will still have weight limits. Now you can spec stove, fridge, sink, water tanks...etc..


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Thanks everyone!

Cast iron stays. lol I don't think one 10" will literally tip the scales.

RE nonstick. They're good for eggs or used to reheat things only. I have two, both All-clad. I'm good there, but know that it's impossible to properly saute in a non-stick. They don't develop fond, so you can't do pan sauces. And again, they don't work on induction ranges. They have very limited uses. My cast iron is the best non-stick ever. I do eggs in it all the time and it rinses right out.

I have an e70 BMW. As a former mechanic and someone who still works on their own vehicles (and a specialist with BMW), I can assure you I've checked the towing abilities of this vehicle. BMW says no WDH due to the e70's ability to counteract sway. Once the hitch is installed, the ECM must be coded for towing which activates the anti-sway. Aftermarket WDHs interfere with this. The e70 is not a body-on-frame, but a unibody. This distributed the weight in a different way. The e70 also comes with automatic leveling in the rear through a set of airbags. Not all X5s have this, but it's standard on the 3-row seat model and an option with the others. The X5 is very popular in Europe as a tow vehicle, but as noted, the TTs are not 32 ft behemoths.

Right now our search is confined to the internet, but as soon as the lockdown is over we're back to physically looking. It's been challenging but we're not in any hurry.

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valhalla360 wrote:

propchef wrote:

Edd505 wrote:

Rear Kitchen
[image]


What is that?


Something wayyyyyy toooo biggg for your BMW.

Someone made a comment about getting an enclosed trailer and having it fitted out for you. Given that your budget is in airstream levels, that's actually a viable option if you can find a good carpenter who understands that it will still have weight limits. Now you can spec stove, fridge, sink, water tanks...etc..


Yes, far too big. lol Three slides? Nope.

I don't think my preferences require a custom build. I would also worry about any warranty issues that might arise from a one-off TT. My kitchen trailer was custom and the hardest part was making it 50 states legal, and if I had issues (I never did!) it would have to go back to Florida.

Side Story: When I moved to CA I brought my trailer but didn't have time to use it, so I put it up for sale. It ended up being purchased by a guy in Hawai'i, who had it transported by ship to Honolulu. It now has a relaxing life as a cafe for a local museum.

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Sounds like you're all set then. Oh, BTW, for the record I was not talking about 1 10" skillet. I was talking about a whole set of CI cookware.
Good luck and have fun!


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A 10" cast iron skillet needs no sink to wash. Just wipe it out and store till needed again. Once a cast iron pan is prepped with oil it needs no daily washing. that is the beauty of cast iron.


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We have a granite fireplace hearth! Love to be a little different.

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Turtle n Peeps wrote:

Sounds like you're all set then. Oh, BTW, for the record I was not talking about 1 10" skillet. I was talking about a whole set of CI cookware.
Good luck and have fun!


No worries! Alton Brown once called the 10” skillet the ultimate multi-tasker. We may also bring a Dutch oven, depending on the menu. These are also great outside over a live fire or gas grill.

This forum is awkward for pics but we have several hundred cast iron pieces we’ve collected over the years, but I only use two or three on a regular basis.

Tomorrow is the great bake off for Christmas. We’ve been prepping for days and will bake off bagels, Danish, cookies, holiday bread with mincemeat, and doggie biscuits for our annual treat bags we give our friends. It’s always fun!

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I apologize for taking this off topic:

propchef, you mentioned "I sous vide frequently!". Can you recommend a decent immersion circulator that won't break the bank?. It doesn't have to be the best, just functional. My interest is large 1 1/2" bone-in ribeyes and chicken breast.
What temperature do you recommend for chicken?

Thanks

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