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noonenosthis1

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Posted: 12/24/20 01:35pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Hello,

I'm trying to determine the payload capacity of my F350. I am looking at 5th wheels and want to stay safe. I have a 2015 F350, 4x4, srw, 6.2 gasser. The sticker on the door post (tire and loading information) says the combined weight of occupants and cargo should never exceed 2744 pounds. Is that the payload capacity? I'm looking at 5th wheels that are under 10000 pounds and I see there is a lot of difference in the pin weights. What's your opinion?

And is there a good light weight 5th wheel hitch?
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Yes, 2744 is your capacity. The general rule of thumb is to look at the gross vehicle weight of the RV, not the empty weight, of the RV you are looking at and take 25% of that. That would be the pin weight that would count against your truck capacity. So a 10000 lb x .25 equals 2500 lbs. That only leaves you 244 lbs for your hitch, passenger, dog, etc. I believe 2744 already includes a full tank of gas and a 150 lb driver on a 2015 model. Most 5th wheel hitches will be in the 150lb range except for the Andersen hitch. You can read up on it. People either hate it or love it. I have always used a B&W hitch which weighs close to 200 lbs. Many folks will tell you to disregard the yellow sticker and look at the rear axle capacity and as long as you don't exceed it or the tire capacity you will be OK. 2744 lbs seems low for an F350 with a gas motor.


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Posted: 12/24/20 02:01pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The real payload capacity left over for a fifth wheel can only truly be determined one way: fill the truck up, load up all your passengers, pets, etc., and weigh the truck at the nearest CAT scale. Subtract that number - plus another 150 lbs. for a fifth wheel hitch - from the GVWR number on the truck's door sticker. That's the maximum pin weight for a fifth wheel. In addition, pay no attention to the advertised pin weights on the fifth wheels - those are dry/empty. Use 23% of the RV's GVWR for an estimated loaded pin weight.

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Janice...that payload seems way low for a 2015 F350 gas truck!! You may have one of those 350s with a 10K GVWR, which can be ordered for licensing and registration etc.

To tow a FW, most all the pin wt will be on the rear axle, and rear tires. So the numbers you need to look to are the RAWR, and max tire rating on sidewall. You should be able to carry/tow about any size FW that your 6.2 engine will pull. If you have 3.73 gearing about 12,000 lb FW. If you have 4.30 gears about 15,000.

You don't say if you have the factory FW prep pkg. If so the B&W 3300 for it is only about 150 lbs.

If looking at FWs weighing 10k, or less, your truck will handle that with room to spare!

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MFL wrote:

Janice...that payload seems way low for a 2015 F350 gas truck!! You may have one of those 350s with a 10K GVWR, which can be ordered for licensing and registration etc.

Jerry

our door sticker does say GVWR 10000 lbs. What does it mean when you say, "you may have one of those 350s with a 10k GVWR, which can be ordered for licensing and registration etc." We bought this truck used.

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When ordering an F350, you can choose the GVWR of your choice, which starts at 10K, and has several choices up to 11,500 GVWR. In any case, there is little physical difference in the trucks.

Look at your RAWR, that is what matters! Ford allows a little variation there too, but should be based on tire rating. If tire max rating is 3,750 x 2 will be 7,500 lb capability. Your RAWR is determined by tires/springs, and brakes.

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Your F350 is artificially rated to 10,000 lbs for registration/insurance/DOT purposes. I think its rather ridiculous, because the F250 is already artificially rated to 10,000 lbs.

That said, you can register your F350 to a higher weight and be perfectly legal to carry more weight than just 2700 lbs. I would go by your axle and/or tire ratings. I'm sure that 11,500 lbs is more in line with most gas F350's, so you're fine to that weight, which will give you an additional 1500 lbs of payload.

Just remember to pay the more expensive registration fees for 11,500 lbs as opposed to 10,000 lbs. Should only be a couple dollars a year more and then its PERFECTLY LEGAL going down the street.


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My opinion is that you should be able to pull a 10000 lb fiver with your truck. If you stick to 10,000 lbs the heavier the pin the nicer your trailer will pull and the safer you will be.


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Well, that's interesting. We just got the registration notice and we do pay a weight penalty of 204.00.

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Just look up the specs for trucks like yours 2015 F350 etc.
You have about 4000lbs payload easily. Like spoon said probably just a low gvw “rating.”


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