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cummins2014

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ford truck guy wrote:

Jeeze.....

I'm lucky to pick up the color of a truck going the opposite direction let alone what the badges indicate???.... I am usually tuned into my ZONE...



I'd be getting yelled at by you know who if I was trying to see what truck just went by [emoticon]

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vcv wrote:

Okay folks, here are the results. The raw data is within the image file, and I have consolidated the data below:

Ford: Total of 40
(6.7's dominated the Ford category, no surprise. It was good to see some 6.0's out there, bullet proofed I'm sure. I did not identify a single 7.3, but I know they are still out there!)

Ram/Dodge: Total of 34
(Obviously 6.7's dominated. Most of the 5.9's I identified looked to be well kept and towing older 5rs)

Chev Duramax: Total of 25
(Most all of the Dmax were late model rigs, mostly single axle. I identified 4 LBZs. I have an affinity for the LBZ's, even though I have never owned one)

Topkick/Freightliner: Total of 3
(2 Freightliners and 1 Topkick)

1/2 Ton's towing 5th Wheel: Total of 4
(I changed my data collection on this one to reflect any 1/2 ton towing a 5th wheel, rather than what I feel is "overloaded". There are a few folks on here who seem to be hypersensitive to the issue, so I'll keep that data and opinion to myself.
Of the 1/2 tons I saw, two were Ford and two were GM, all late model. One was at a love travel stop fueling up, one was in a campground, and the other 2 were on the road)

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Are these trucks in passing ,going the other way , how do you tell the difference from an early 6.0 to 7.3. I have learned that the only way to tell some of the earlier 7.3 Suoerduties to the later 7.3 is the badge on the front fender, the early ones were in the front of the fender the later were lower rear part of the fender, as were the 6.0 Also got to be be quick in passing to be able to tell the early 99 Superduty 7.3 from the V10, nearly the same badge on the front of the front fender. Just curious


Data collection is not perfect. To your point, it is very hard to tell the difference in a 2003 year model if it is a 6.0 vs 7.3. if I cannot get a good look it. But then I'm not logging that data. I also could have mistaken a Ford gasser from diesel (not many guys tow heavy 5rs with a gasser). Overall the data is accurate. I know trucks, I know the models, I know the engines, the badges, the grills, etc..

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fj12ryder wrote:

cummins2014 wrote:

Are these trucks in passing ,going the other way , how do you tell the difference from an early 6.0 to 7.3. I have learned that the only way to tell some of the earlier 7.3 Suoerduties to the later 7.3 is the badge on the front fender, the early ones were in the front of the fender the later were lower rear part of the fender, as were the 6.0 Also got to be be quick in passing to be able to tell the early 99 Superduty 7.3 from the V10, nearly the same badge on the front of the front fender. Just curious
These were exactly my thoughts when I first commented on paying attention to other vehicles instead of what was going on in the immediate area. How does one garner all this information with just a "quick glance"? Simply differentiating between a 3/4 ton and a 1 ton isn't easily apparent unless it's a dually. And some 1/2 tons and 3/4 tons are very similar, which makes telling them apart take more than just a glance.



I am afraid this is going to be far from even close to accurate data. The op probably should just post truck brands towing fifth wheels, forget the motor, can't know for sure unless sitting beside them. . But then we know what that will be , it will be the Ford being the most popular [emoticon]


The "OP" posted the data he collected. It is not rocket science. Many people are able to tell the type of truck (and most engines) at a glance.. that is IF you know the trucks. No survey is 100% accurate, but overall the data is correct.

Just b/c you can't tell the difference in the trucks doesn't mean someone else can't.

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I didn't say I couldn't tell one truck from the other ,my point is I can, so thats why I said what I did. Please carry on with whatever you think is being accomplished . [emoticon]

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cummins2014 wrote:

vcv wrote:

Okay folks, here are the results. The raw data is within the image file, and I have consolidated the data below:

Ford: Total of 40
(6.7's dominated the Ford category, no surprise. It was good to see some 6.0's out there, bullet proofed I'm sure. I did not identify a single 7.3, but I know they are still out there!)

Ram/Dodge: Total of 34
(Obviously 6.7's dominated. Most of the 5.9's I identified looked to be well kept and towing older 5rs)

Chev Duramax: Total of 25
(Most all of the Dmax were late model rigs, mostly single axle. I identified 4 LBZs. I have an affinity for the LBZ's, even though I have never owned one)

Topkick/Freightliner: Total of 3
(2 Freightliners and 1 Topkick)

1/2 Ton's towing 5th Wheel: Total of 4
(I changed my data collection on this one to reflect any 1/2 ton towing a 5th wheel, rather than what I feel is "overloaded". There are a few folks on here who seem to be hypersensitive to the issue, so I'll keep that data and opinion to myself.
Of the 1/2 tons I saw, two were Ford and two were GM, all late model. One was at a love travel stop fueling up, one was in a campground, and the other 2 were on the road)

[image]



Are these trucks in passing ,going the other way , how do you tell the difference from an early 6.0 to 7.3. I have learned that the only way to tell some of the earlier 7.3 Suoerduties to the later 7.3 is the badge on the front fender, the early ones were in the front of the fender the later were lower rear part of the fender, as were the 6.0 Also got to be be quick in passing to be able to tell the early 99 Superduty 7.3 from the V10, nearly the same badge on the front of the front fender. Just curious


Easy, the 7.3L badge is slightly shorter and has a black background and the 6.0L has a silver background. They are actually quite different when looking at them. Also, the mirror backs are different, and most FX4 trucks are 6.0L trucks. There are ways to tell if you know these trucks (I had a 2003 F-350). [emoticon]


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That’s right. And if you know what you are looking for, you can tell a 2004 vs 2005 6.0 based on the badge.

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Hey OP, nice job!!!

Guys the OP has Marty Feldman eyes.

Remember the topic says "Just for fun"


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blofgren wrote:

Easy, the 7.3L badge is slightly shorter and has a black background and the 6.0L has a silver background. They are actually quite different when looking at them. Also, the mirror backs are different, and most FX4 trucks are 6.0L trucks. There are ways to tell if you know these trucks (I had a 2003 F-350). [emoticon]
And you can see these minor differences at 100-150 feet apart, and closing speeds of 120-140 mph in a quick glance? As the Brits would say: Pull the other one. [emoticon]


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Nice job vcv!

And... I do understand what "just for fun" means...


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fj12ryder wrote:

blofgren wrote:

Easy, the 7.3L badge is slightly shorter and has a black background and the 6.0L has a silver background. They are actually quite different when looking at them. Also, the mirror backs are different, and most FX4 trucks are 6.0L trucks. There are ways to tell if you know these trucks (I had a 2003 F-350). [emoticon]
And you can see these minor differences at 100-150 feet apart, and closing speeds of 120-140 mph in a quick glance? As the Brits would say: Pull the other one. [emoticon]



My point exactly ,but hey its just for fun .

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