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Timmo!

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Posted: 01/12/21 06:40am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Got masks, requesting refund. Sorry for this Walmart folly.

Steve, not convincing myself on the advantages of greater surface contact, just tossing out technical info to offset the opinions of our learned naysayers.


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Posted: 01/15/21 02:39pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I received masks also. The masks will not make a good cord at all.

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Posted: 01/15/21 02:44pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Excellent. [emoticon] Now you can get the proper cord with a 30-TT connector


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Or not so "proper"; stay tuned Time.

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Ha, time2roll. I didn't order the cords for our fifth wheel. I was hoping to make a couple of very nice extension cords for the garage for low cost. All of us that got scammed on this will have to deal with it. I purchase these masks for work by the thousands. I have to say, 100 masks for $27.84 is currently not a good deal at all. In March 2020 it wasn't the worst though. And you had to prepay with a credit card, with no guarantee of when you would get them, or if you would get them at all. Now, these masks are readily available everywhere for a reasonable cost. But good quality 10/3 extension cords, for reasonable cost, are not. I guess I'll hold on to the masks for this next "Highly Contagious" variant of Covid 19.

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GrandpaKip wrote:

I dunno...sounds like a solution in search of a problem.
In all my years of boating and RVing, I’ve never seen a reason to doubt the Marinco inlets and cordsets. May be there are problems with the China knockoffs, but I have always had the Marinco.


yep ... regardless of how "SMART" all the cord and trailer end connectors are you still have that ultimate and generally unknown variable of the shore power box receptacle which in my almost 50 years of RVing has always been the "WEAK LINK" in the power supply system.

Also generally I'm somewhat skeptical anytime I see a product with the word "SMART or INTELLIGENT" in it since that usually at least to me says that product is being marketed to those "DUMB" enough to believe that this "SMART or INTELLIGENT" product is actually "SMARTER or more INTELLIGENT" than what already exists. Further more these "SMART/INTELLIGENT" products often ignore other factors that were always the true weak or dumber aspects of whatever the product is advertised to "IMPROVE".

IMHO the two "SMARTEST" things one can do in improving their 30 amp power system is to buy a 50A to 30A pigtail so you hook up to the shore power end at the 50A point and two if your trailer has the Marinco type connector is to get a 90 deg adapter to relieve the stress at the trailer side connection. I also like the Marinco type connectors since they are IMO more weatherproof and secure than a straight plug type connector.

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LarryJM wrote:

GrandpaKip wrote:

I dunno...sounds like a solution in search of a problem.
In all my years of boating and RVing, I’ve never seen a reason to doubt the Marinco inlets and cordsets. May be there are problems with the China knockoffs, but I have always had the Marinco.


yep ... regardless of how "SMART" all the cord and trailer end connectors are you still have that ultimate and generally unknown variable of the shore power box receptacle which in my almost 50 years of RVing has always been the "WEAK LINK" in the power supply system.

Also generally I'm somewhat skeptical anytime I see a product with the word "SMART or INTELLIGENT" in it since that usually at least to me says that product is being marketed to those "DUMB" enough to believe that this "SMART or INTELLIGENT" product is actually "SMARTER or more INTELLIGENT" than what already exists. Further more these "SMART/INTELLIGENT" products often ignore other factors that were always the true weak or dumber aspects of whatever the product is advertised to "IMPROVE".

IMHO the two "SMARTEST" things one can do in improving their 30 amp power system is to buy a 50A to 30A pigtail so you hook up to the shore power end at the 50A point and two if your trailer has the Marinco type connector is to get a 90 deg adapter to relieve the stress at the trailer side connection. I also like the Marinco type connectors since they are IMO more weatherproof and secure than a straight plug type connector.

Larry

Hah, hah. I have no clue how an inanimate object can be construed to be “smart”.


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Posted: 01/16/21 08:47am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

From their websites.






https://www.marinco.com/en/cs30-12




https://smartplug.com/why-smartplug/

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Twist-Lock® (a trademark of the Hubbell Corp) is a decent connector but is not the easiest to connect and doesn't really make good contact. Smartplug makes a thing of showing burned up plugs and connectors, which is a real issue, but probably not as much as they make it out to be. I like the idea of the Smartplug but wished it was available in a 90° design so the cord didn't stick out so from the RV. I have a 90° turn lock connector on my shore cord, and should it ever give any problems I might convert to the SmartPlug, as the screw mounting pattern is the same as the Marinco and other similar connectors.

Randy at Best Converter tried to get me to convert, however I had 1) already bought and installed the Marinco turn lock inlet and wired it in place of the hardwired shore cord, and I had already purchased an extra long (36ft) shore cord with a 90° turn lock connector with LED indicator on it.

Biggest thing I do not like about the turn lock connectors are the super fine thread collars that you have to fiddle with to get the threads to start without cross threading. The thing I like the most about the Smartplug is the ease of simply pushing the plug in place till the latches click, and the amount of contact surface area they have. Thing I do not like is the cost of the product, which is excessive.

LarryJM wrote:

I also like the Marinco type connectors since they are IMO more weatherproof and secure than a straight plug type connector.

Larry

The Smartplug has a well designed water seal that compresses as you plug the connector in.

Lynnmor wrote:

My trailer came with a twist lock detachable cord. I had failures with the blades in the cord end, the wires loosened in the inlet and the cheesy plastic ring was troublesome. I installed a locking hatch and modified it to exclude pests, then hard-wired a cord. You can argue about the merits of various contacts all you want, but I prefer a continuous wire where it passes thru combustible materials. Pulling out only what I need, easily wiping the cord clean and no need to carry and find a storage place are additional benefits.

In my motorhome, the hard wired cord worked well as the compartment the cord stowed in was large enough to wipe it off and feed in in a loop till it was all coiled up, and was easily connected to the generator outlet. On my current trailer the access door to the cord storage was rather small and the cord was a real bear to attempt to store in the compartment. I removed the door and frame, fabricated a heavy aluminum plate to fit over the opening with a Marinco turn lock connector mounted in it, and removed the storage compartment inside. Only problem is that my trailer has a built in generator and the original design was to plug the shore cord into the generator outlet INSIDE the cord storage compartment, yea, right, good luck with that!. I installed a transfer switch and connected it all together with blue smurf flex conduit and stranded THHN 10 gauge wiring.

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Perhaps many of the naysayers should first research the product before commenting or condemning it. I saw more than one comment that it didn't appear to be tested or approved, however in the website it is noted that it is tested and approved by Intertek/ETL and this is as valid a testing service as UL (and a lot cheaper I understand).

https://smartplug.com/rv/

Charles

* This post was edited 01/23/21 09:32pm by CharlesinGA *


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Posted: 01/23/21 09:48pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I wish Hubbell would make a 30-TT replacement plug.

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