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Posted: 01/12/21 08:51pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I think he is over on the front axle. 19.5's which I assume a 450 would have is would not be rated to carry that much weight based on how they measure weight here at a port. I think that he is carrying silage that is baled not hay. I dont see hay weighing up like that. Silage is dense, wet and the texture of the material in pic doesn't look like hay. Regardless, that is a lot weight.


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Salesman told him it would tow anything!


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RoyF wrote:

The truck may not be overloaded. Maybe somebody who knows about hay can tell us how much that load ought to weigh.


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Legal he's probably fine.
Trailer axle is a triple tandem. Iirc 45-50000 lbs per bridge laws
Rear axle, 20000
Front assuming 245 width 9500
225 width just under 9000
both sizes have 16 ply options that get them close to those single axle amounts.

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Posted: 01/13/21 07:26am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I don’t see how he could be overloaded on the front axle. On a GN trailer like that, does any of the load end up on the front axle?

The OEM tires are 225 19.5’s, but you sometimes see owners replace them with 245’s on the stock wheels.

As heavy as it is, I was assuming a pretty high moisture content in those bales of “grass”.

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I’m not a farmer, but that seems awfully high for grass. But I’m guessing those bales get super compressed when rolled!


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With just one strap on the load I betcha he's going from the field to the barn. The combo works fine for this type of work a few times a summer.
Looks like maybe 25 bales 3' X 4" X 8' which may weigh in the 1300 lbs range for around 32500 lbs of grass.
The F450 may weigh in the 10k range.
A GN trailer that size can weigh in the 10k range.

The triaxle dual tandem trailer may have 12k axles at 36000 GVWR. The hard part is guessing what percentage this trailer has for hitch loads all depending on axle placement on the trailer.
A 36000 GVWR trailer at 25 % = 9000 lbs well within 19.5" tires/wheels and axle assy....but short on F450 9100 RAWR spring pack ratings.

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I am not ag familiar, nor am I familiar with a gooseneck trailer pin percentage. I suspect a minimum 25% hitch wt, and allowing 10K for truck, leaves 43K for trailer, with near 11K on the hitch ball. If truck axle is at 4K, that is around 15K on truck rear axle.

Makes the Ford look pretty stout/job ready. Maybe just can't see the line that reads "don't try this at home"!

I suppose they did not want to weigh/show rear axle wt.

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Actually it looks good and I stand by my comment it may be at or within the RAWR.


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