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Posted: 01/20/21 07:16am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Cummins12V98 wrote:

Truck it's self is probably not overloaded. Take 10k off and then take 15% of the load that's only 6,450#. My pin is 6k and I am at my RAWR of 9,750#.


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Just a bit of tail squat. [emoticon]


Actually it looks good and I stand by my comment it may be at or within the RAWR.


But to quote you....."How will it handle evasive maneuvers?" lol


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Grit dog wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

thomasmnile wrote:

Just a bit of tail squat. [emoticon]


Actually it looks good and I stand by my comment it may be at or within the RAWR.


But to quote you....."How will it handle evasive maneuvers?" lol


With THAT load probably not well. But since it’s a DRW it may have a fighting chance!


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That truck does NOT have 19.5s

F450 pickups of that gen came with the same tires as F350. 6k front GAWR, 9650 rear GAWR iirc.

Also, payload was lower than an F350 I believe. The only thing they had was a higher towing capacity to compete with Ram.

He's probably close to the rear tire limit of 12,800 lbs. However, that Dana 130 axle itself has plenty of capacity left (16k lbs)

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That truck does NOT have 19.5s

F450 pickups of that gen came with the same tires as F350. 6k front GAWR, 9650 rear GAWR iirc.

Also, payload was lower than an F350 I believe. The only thing they had was a higher towing capacity to compete with Ram.

He's probably close to the rear tire limit of 12,800 lbs. However, that Dana 130 axle itself has plenty of capacity left (16k lbs)


If he had that weight there would be little space from top tire to bottom fender opening UNLESS he was bagged.

I also think you may be high on the tire capacity. Did you figure single or dual ?

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2017 and up to 2021 Fleet Ford specs show the F450 pickup comes with 19.5" wheels/tires.
Specs shows a steel 19.5" - 8 lug @ 3590 lbs capacity.
And a polished aluminum 19.5"- 10 lug @ 3750 lbs capacity.

Seem odd for a 8 or 10 lug option with just one RAWR.

2014 listed the F450 came with a 8 lug 17" wheel.

No other size is listed. The new fleet Ford spec website the last year or so only goes back to 2014 that I have. Their old website spec pages went back to 2000.


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I’m not sure what axle was on the rear of the 2011-2014 F450’s, but it wasn’t the Dana S130. None of the F450 pickups used that axle, it was used on the cab and chassis F450’s though. The 2008-2010, and the 2015-2016 F450 pickups used the Dana S110 and 19.5 tires and wheels.

At the beginning of the video, you can clearly see that the front driver side wheel is 8-lug.

The ‘11-‘14’s were oddballs that weren’t much different from the F350.

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Cummins12V98 wrote:

If he had that weight there would be little space from top tire to bottom fender opening UNLESS he was bagged.

I also think you may be high on the tire capacity. Did you figure single or dual ?


My bad, forgot to use dual numbers. Should be 11,640 lbs @ 80psi.

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I’m not sure what axle was on the rear of the 2011-2014 F450’s, but it wasn’t the Dana S130. None of the F450 pickups used that axle, it was used on the cab and chassis F450’s though. The 2008-2010, and the 2015-2016 F450 pickups used the Dana S110 and 19.5 tires and wheels.

At the beginning of the video, you can clearly see that the front driver side wheel is 8-lug.

The ‘11-‘14’s were oddballs that weren’t much different from the F350.

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According to this guy his 2015 pickup came with an S130, which in the photos look identical to his F550:

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1410665-f450-rear-axle.html#post15860273

Was there a change / heavy spec pkg that used the S130?

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