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mr. ed

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Posted: 01/22/21 10:42am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

If your tow vehicle has standard shift, this suggestion might be a moot point for you.

When I was new to trailer towing with my Dodge 3500 (6 speed manual), I would often encounter a burning smell while maneuvering my fiver into a site. I realized it was probably clutch material burning due to constantly riding the clutch. Somehow it never occurred to me to use 4WD, which would have been much easier on the clutch. The clutch did hold up pretty well for quite a while but eventually needed replacing. Having learned my lesson, I started using 4WD whenever making small maneuvers when towing. I don't know why I didn't do it sooner! Would have saved me paying for a new clutch.

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Good point, but I think you mean 4-low, not just 4x4. Many drivers, unfamiliar with clutch operation, slipped the clutch, even driving a car. I think some just stepped on gas, let engine rev hard, while slowly letting up on the clutch pedal. [emoticon] Used to joke about the fan pulling car forward, until the clutch engagement took over.[emoticon]

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In my Dodge, turning the front wheels is very difficult when the front is engaged. Especially in tight maneuvers.


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Super_Dave wrote:

In my Dodge, turning the front wheels is very difficult when the front is engaged. Especially in tight maneuvers.


Yeah same on my F350. Putting it in 4WD makes the steering in turns much stiffer. I like most of us now days have an automatic transmission tho if that makes a difference. But I think it is just geometry.


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agesilaus wrote:

Super_Dave wrote:

In my Dodge, turning the front wheels is very difficult when the front is engaged. Especially in tight maneuvers.


Yeah same on my F350. Putting it in 4WD makes the steering in turns much stiffer. I like most of us now days have an automatic transmission tho if that makes a difference. But I think it is just geometry.


No difference, manual to auto. Turning on dry pavement puts undo strain on front drive system. If on dirt, gravel, or especially ice, the tires can slide, rather than cause the front drive bind. Older style, manual locking hubs, worked best, as you could shift the case to 4-low, but leave hubs unlocked. This allowed the 4-low gearing, without locking the front drive system.

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Yes, most HD trucks have no center differential and are very hard to turn in 4WD when on a solid, dry surface.


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Haven’t seen very many standard transmissions in drag race cars in years. By

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Drag race cars/pickups vs working HD pickups.... apples vs pickles.

My wife has a very hard time driving my '03 Dodge/Cummins 2wd 3.73 gears with the NV5600 6 speed tranny. She doesn't grasp all you need to do is let the clutch out and the engine will maintain enough rpm to move (forward or back) my 16000 lb GN stock trailer or any size trailer. She wants to throttle up the RPMs and slide the clutch.


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I believe there are kits out there that make it so you can use low without engaging the front axle. This is what makes maneuvering with a manual much easier on the clutch.


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Roger10378 wrote:

I believe there are kits out there that make it so you can use low without engaging the front axle. This is what makes maneuvering with a manual much easier on the clutch.


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I installed a 2-low kit on my 2001 Ram 5 speed manual, made backing very easy on the clutch, could actually have it fully engaged while backing.


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