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ktmrfs

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PawPaw_n_Gram wrote:

Sales Tax - you pay the legal sales tax where you buy a vehicle, and if you register the vehicle in a different state - you owe tax there.



Not necessarily true. recently we were looking at new vehicles and looked at buying in washington because they had one we wanted. Live in oregon. At least in WA if you purchase in WA are not a WA resident and are going to register in oregon (maybe other states as well) no sales tax due in washington. And oregon has no sales tax. So where we bought OR or WA didn't make any difference.

I believe in WA you pay the sales tax when you register the vehicle. So if it isn't registered in WA you won't pay sales tax.

Not sure how other states handle it.


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ktmrfs wrote:

PawPaw_n_Gram wrote:

Sales Tax - you pay the legal sales tax where you buy a vehicle, and if you register the vehicle in a different state - you owe tax there.



Not necessarily true. recently we were looking at new vehicles and looked at buying in washington because they had one we wanted. Live in oregon. At least in WA if you purchase in WA are not a WA resident and are going to register in oregon (maybe other states as well) no sales tax due in washington. And oregon has no sales tax. So where we bought OR or WA didn't make any difference.

I believe in WA you pay the sales tax when you register the vehicle. So if it isn't registered in WA you won't pay sales tax.

Not sure how other states handle it.

You’re both right. Depending on the circumstance or state. Lots of time if you take delivery in the purchasing state (and live in another state ) you pay the tax in state of purchase but can credit it to your registration state. If you pay more than due, you’re out the difference.
Last new trailer I bought (coincidentally it was a trailer, same for vehicles, anything g that requires title and/or registration, I bought out of state. Told dealer I didn’t want to pay tax, he said he’d have to deliver it out of that state. He was right, but we agreed that I “took delivery” out of his state. Even though I didn’t.
I wasn’t planning on titling it as I only needed it a couple weeks and bought it cross country from my home state, and had no internet in paying tax and registration in my state just to sell it immediately upon returning to my home state.


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OP, are you planning on towing it around or parking it semi permanently?
If parking it, just drive it down, park it and don’t title/ license it.
If the dealer won’t let it go without doing the title transfer and registration, have a talk or walk. They can sell it to you with a bill of sale and an assigned title or mco if they choose to.

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Thanks for all of the replies. Seems I have a bit of work to do. One thing, I am not trying to avoid any taxes just want to figure out what I can or cannot do legally and if it is worth the hassle. Seems like the taxes would be paid in California. Up here in BC the taxes are 12% new or used. Was not sure if you bought used in US if it was cheaper tax rate if / when registered in California.

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The answer to question depends on several things related to what you are going to do with the rv and your residency. Are you buying new or used? From a dealer or private party? What about titleing it in your home province?

You are going to have to have a title for it from somewhere, but not necessarily register it. That is likely when you will get taxed, if not done in Oregon.

I live in Washington and purchased my current trailer from a dealer in California and had it delivered to my house. The dealer gave me the option to pay CA sales tax on the purchase. I declined, because Washington tax on it would be higher and I would have had to pay the difference to WA upon titling it. My thought for doing this was I don't live in CA so if I am going to pay the same total in taxes why do I want to give that money to a state I don't live in. Something else I discovered when deciding how to get it to my house. Was that if I towed it home and spent the night in it while still in CA I technically would have been required to pay the tax to CA.

Since it sounds like you are planning to park it long term after it is in CA. I would be inclined to title it in OR and use trip permits to get to the final destination.

Most insurance companies will cover new vehicle purchases for a couple of days without being notified.


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Petethescot wrote:

Thanks for all of the replies. Seems I have a bit of work to do. One thing, I am not trying to avoid any taxes just want to figure out what I can or cannot do legally and if it is worth the hassle. Seems like the taxes would be paid in California. Up here in BC the taxes are 12% new or used. Was not sure if you bought used in US if it was cheaper tax rate if / when registered in California.


Seems to me you are trying to avoid SOME taxes.

I suspect, in the end it will cost you pretty much the same or more by the time the dust settles than if you just bought a RV in Canada and brought it to California..

Assuming you are planning to park the RV on land or a campground, right?

If so, unless there is a compelling reason to transfer the title and plate it for California the simplest and most likely cheapest way is to buy in your country even with paying 12% tax rate.

Buying in one state then titling in another can be a tricky process because each state has their own rules which must be followed to the "T".

Most states require one to be a resident of that state just to transfer the title to that state, let alone putting tags on it..

And for those who mentioned not worrying about transferring titles, well, the title shows your ownership..

Your ownership could be questioned at anytime and without a proper title in YOUR NAME you have no real proof other than a hand written "bill of sale" (which is questionable at best since anyone can make up a BOS) and you have also doomed that trailer in most states to scrap value.

No proper title = JUNK, it is very difficult and expensive to fix no title RVs so no resale value if OP changed their mind and wants to sell the RV down the road.

May even have difficult time getting insurance coverage which if you are planning to put in in a permanent park most parks WILL require you to carry insurance on it while it is in that park.

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Bought my boat in Oregon and paid my sales tax in Utah. The tax is only on what is registered. The bank holds the title and no relationship between title and taxes.


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Super_Dave wrote:

Bought my boat in Oregon and paid my sales tax in Utah. The tax is only on what is registered. The bank holds the title and no relationship between title and taxes.


OP LIVES IN and is a RESIDENT OF CANADA.

Would have CANADA LICENSE AND INSURANCE.

Wants to buy in Oregon for some reason.

Wants to MOVE RV from Oregon to CALIFORNIA.

This is not straight forward as a US Citizen buying in Oregon and moving it to California.

I suspect OP will not be able to transfer the title, period and would end up with nothing more than a Bill of sale.

Highly doubt California will transfer a title from out of state to an non resident to California's DMV system. May even have a difficult time buying a new RV in Oregon because of the title paperwork that must be done, used not so much a problem there.

Of course if OP is planning to move the RV to California to a permanent site they might be able to get away with never transferring the title and thus avoiding California' taxes and registration costs but the OP WILL need to get some sort of temporary tags to move the RV from Oregon to California which is going to cost money and most likely not work if Oregon requires a Oregon DL and insurance just to issue a temp tag..

It is a no win situation.

Op could buy in Oregon, never transfer title, nor register title, nor get tags and pay to have a heavy hauler with a flat deck low boy trailer and drop off at the exact spot without the need for title, title transfer and paying taxes.. But, a Heavy hauler with a low boy flat deck could cost a couple of thousand... And if they ever decided to sell they are stuck with an untitled trailer that they can not sell because of the messed up title.

Many ways to do it and most workarounds will in the end cost more than just buying what they want where they currently live and drive it to where that want it to stay..

The reality of it is if the OP were to buy a $20K RV, they would be on the hook for $2400 in taxes (12%) where they currently live..

Even IF they could find a way to work this third party deal out, the chances are they WILL spend MORE than the measly $2400 in taxes they would owe if they bought in their Country..

Not even sure why they picked Oregon other than perhaps lower "sales taxes" perhaps?

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Wait... are you buying in Oregon and then parking it on a permanent site in California? If so I would just get a temp tag from the dealer when you buy it. No sense paying yearly registration fees for a vehicle that doesn't move. Again, I'm not familiar with Cali requirements. In Maryland, you don't have to have tags unless its moving down the road.

Yes, you pay sales tax on it. I'm not sure how taxes will work in Oregon/Cali in your scenario. Usually you pay sales tax when you buy (from a dealer), and they send that money to the state where you register the vehicle. In your case, if you don't have to register the vehicle, I'm not sure how that would work...

Insurance is insurance. My truck's insurance covers the trailer when I'm driving. My RV insurance covers the trailer when its parked. Now, whether they will let you only buy 1 months worth of insurance is another question.

In the end, it begs the question... why not just buy in California and have it delivered?


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spoon059 wrote:

Wait... are you buying in Oregon and then parking it on a permanent site in California? If so I would just get a temp tag from the dealer when you buy it. No sense paying yearly registration fees for a vehicle that doesn't move. Again, I'm not familiar with Cali requirements. In Maryland, you don't have to have tags unless its moving down the road.


In California the vehicle needs either current registration, or if it's parked somewhere that is NOT a public roadway it needs to be placed in "Permanent Non-Operational" status. But then it cannot put so much as a shadow onto a public roadway without obtaining a single-trip permit. When you park it in a trailer park it will definitely require insurance, and MAY require current registration - that's up to the trailer park.

As for the legality of an out-of-country purchaser buying in one state and parking in a second state - I don't know if that's even possible; buying shouldn't be a problem, but I think most states require you to be a resident in order to title, and register, a vehicle.


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