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Posted: 02/01/21 05:53am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Interesting way to use statistics... per capita for CO2 emissions, instead of simply who is polluting more.


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Posted: 02/01/21 06:02am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Think this is more representative of the impact each nation has on the total carbon emissions.

Each country's share of c02 emissions

China is nearly double the US. Im sure they would rather use the per Capita stat.

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Wallaby’s chart says it all. China has almost four times the people and yet only has double the emissions.

We can’t really be asking their people to reduce their emissions until we reduce ours by at least half.

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Tree Huggers----always got the data to support their beliefs.

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I guess that’s where we differ then.

I think it’s entirely reasonable for all contributors to the production of co2 to contribute to its reduction. That’s called fairness in my world.

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NRALIFR wrote:

I guess that’s where we differ then.

I think it’s entirely reasonable for all contributors to the production of co2 to contribute to its reduction. That’s called fairness in my world.

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Sure. Totally agree. But let’s not point fingers at a group of people when we are are belching out twice as much as they are per person. That wouldn’t be fair.

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Wanting ALL of the data to be considered isn’t “pointing fingers at a group of people”. All developed nations are part of the problem, and all should be included in any proposed solution.

Excluding any of the major players is the exact opposite of fairness.

Even under your policy proposal, at the rate of CO2 production growth in China, and the relative flatness to downward trending production in the US, we wouldn’t have to halve our production before asking China to join in. It would be better if everyone started making reductions now.

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NRALIFR wrote:

Wanting ALL of the data to be considered isn’t “pointing fingers at a group of people”. All developed nations are part of the problem, and all should be included in any proposed solution.

Excluding any of the major players is the exact opposite of fairness.

Even under your policy proposal, at the rate of CO2 production growth in China, and the relative flatness to downward trending production in the US, we wouldn’t have to halve our production before asking China to join in. It would be better if everyone started making reductions now.

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Good point. I agree.

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Heck I remember paying 5 bucks a gallon when GWB was in office. It was only once and it was in Tx. I keep my 2500 DMAX for towing and for driving the slab I 75 north. I really am hoping for an electric next year for us here in the city. I had a Volt and liked it other than getting in or out.


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Reisender wrote:

NRALIFR wrote:

Wanting ALL of the data to be considered isn’t “pointing fingers at a group of people”. All developed nations are part of the problem, and all should be included in any proposed solution.

Excluding any of the major players is the exact opposite of fairness.

Even under your policy proposal, at the rate of CO2 production growth in China, and the relative flatness to downward trending production in the US, we wouldn’t have to halve our production before asking China to join in. It would be better if everyone started making reductions now.

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Good point. I agree.

Cheers.


And what measures to use for global collective action other than the fact that we are just 5% of the world population but contributing 25% to it's pollution.

I also thought we have International leadership. I just know that leadership is. not pointing fingers -- well, at least not lately in the last...

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