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c.traveler2

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Posted: 02/03/21 11:18pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

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Unfortunately your chart is misleading since it is basis against the USA. There are other countries that rated worst than the United States at 16.06 tons/capita. Saudi Arabia at 16.99 tons/ capita, Mongolia at 20.31 tons/capita, Australia a/capitat 16.31 tons and Kazakhstan at 16.92 tons/capita. Now that's mades 4 countries with higher tons than the USA.

Source: Our World in Data base on the Global Carbon Project, Gapminder and the UN. 2019


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c.traveler2 wrote:

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Unfortunately your chart is misleading since it is basis against the USA. There are other countries that rated worst than the United States at 16.06 tons/capita. Saudi Arabia at 16.99 tons/ capita, Mongolia at 20.31 tons/capita, Australia a/capitat 16.31 tons and Kazakhstan at 16.92 tons/capita. Now that's mades 4 countries with higher tons than the USA.

Source: Our World in Data base on the Global Carbon Project, Gapminder and the UN. 2019


Yah. Could be. I just know my country (Canada) is one of the pigs of the planet and I’m happy to see our government finally taking steps to improving things. I don’t know much about climate or climate change but I do like clean air. I am a huge fan of a healthy petro chemical industry as we make so many things from petroleum products. But I think we need to stop burning it wherever possible. And if we do have to burn it for awhile yet let’s burn it as clean as we can. And we need to work towards subsidizing it less. And if we insist on subsidizing it then put the same subsidees into its competitors like hydro, storage, wind, solar, thermal.

Personally every one we know who buys an EV buys it primarily for reasons like

Better performance
Convenience
They like high tech
Some are long range commuters who save a ton of money driving EV.
Quiet
No more stinky garages
Low maintenance.

But I also think air quality in cities will get considerably better once EV’s are a majority. We travel a lot in Europe and cities with no tail pipe zones have notably cleaner air.

In my opinion any car company that doesn’t get on board real fast with EV development will be either gone or absorbed. The driving experience of an EV is plain and simply superior to anything with a tail pipe. And that is what will decide it. The charging infrastructure is just a matter of time. Look how far it’s come in just the last 5 years since we bought our first EV. There were 8 fast charger locations in the province. Now there are over a 170 locations with probably 500 stalls or more.

It will take a while for 1/2 tons and such to catch up yet but it’s not far away. One ton duallys maybe another decade.

Anyway. All JMHO of course. .

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ANWAR leases drew almost no bids. There was no interest shown by any of the major oil companies to drill In ANWAR and the government new that in advance. The sale was a poor attempt to say "eff you" to a bunch of people, and give a gift to the oil industry. To sell at a time when it would have brought the very least return to the American public was an epic failure. And the current admin had nothing to do with any of that.

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cptqueeg wrote:

ANWAR leases drew almost no bids. There was no interest shown by any of the major oil companies to drill In ANWAR and the government new that in advance. The sale was a poor attempt to say "eff you" to a bunch of people, and give a gift to the oil industry. To sell at a time when it would have brought the very least return to the American public was an epic failure. And the current admin had nothing to do with any of that.


And the oil/drilling exploration companies have many unused leases.

You are right, it's a play to keep the political base cheering too aside from an "off you" to the opposition and the environmentalists.

In fact, there are many pumps that are being capped for global oversupply.

Seems the beginning of the end too for the oil industry. The biggest of 'em all, Exxon lost $20.1 billion this quarter. They have to up the prices to recoup losses and stem the tide -- then blame the government for taxes or something.

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Grodyman wrote:

Reisender wrote:

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Problem is....no matter how much the United State cuts back on emissions, the biggest polluters are Russia, China ,India and they wont stop. So our sacrifice will not do much at all.


Nope. By Capita, which is the only fair way to do it, The US, Australia and Canada are the pigs of the planet. I think Austrailia has moved into "the lead" now.

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