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Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

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free radical wrote:

Mining for Lithium is substantialy less harmful then driling for oil.
And cobalt is used for refining gasoline btw !...
You obviously have never visited a mining and a drilling site.


So tell us what we don't know rather make us guess.
We can start off really simple and get complicated later on for anyone that still can't envision it.

Lets start with a mining site; generally encompasses hundreds of acres of mud, dirt, dust, erosion, and a few dozen trucks, excavators, bulldozers, loaders, etc. running around. If you want a visual just watch "Gold Rush" on TV then multiply that by a factor of about 10.

Now I can drill a well on about 2 acres of ground with One drill rig, a support truck, and a pickup truck for tools and equipment (and it'll take a few months instead of 20 years or mining).

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Now I can drill a well on about 2 acres of ground with One drill rig, a support truck, and a pickup truck for tools and equipment (and it'll take a few months instead of 20 years or mining).
That seems a bit simplistic.


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ronharmless wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

ronharmless wrote:

free radical wrote:

Mining for Lithium is substantialy less harmful then driling for oil.
And cobalt is used for refining gasoline btw !...
You obviously have never visited a mining and a drilling site.


So tell us what we don't know rather make us guess.
We can start off really simple and get complicated later on for anyone that still can't envision it.

Lets start with a mining site; generally encompasses hundreds of acres of mud, dirt, dust, erosion, and a few dozen trucks, excavators, bulldozers, loaders, etc. running around. If you want a visual just watch "Gold Rush" on TV then multiply that by a factor of about 10.

Now I can drill a well on about 2 acres of ground with One drill rig, a support truck, and a pickup truck for tools and equipment (and it'll take a few months instead of 20 years or mining).


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Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

SPRey wrote:

Nothing went wrong when I bought my first computer (Commodore 64). It worked great until I bought an Apple II, then I gave it to my neighbor.

Bought my 1968 VW bug for $800 and sold it 10 years later for $1000 (after adding 100k miles). I did add a quadraphonic 8 track tape player and replaced the backseat with a "cargo deck".

When I buy a computer today, I buy the best I can, knowing that tomorrow it will be "obsolete".

With pre-planning and strategizing, I don't have many "woulda, shoulda, coulda" feelings. I set my emotions and "feelings" aside, and visualize the process from start to finish, then turn the page 90 degrees and do it again, and repeat; many times the "first solution" uncovered is not the best. Rather I prefer to explore different perspectives, gathering multiple solutions--then select the best solution from the "many". Call me anal, call me silly, but it has worked for me and my clients for the past 40 years.


Huh? You have had no traumatic experience with your own big ticket nor hi-tech purchases and yet you surmise that EV buyers will have one?

Sorry, I don't see where you are coming from -- and I have done for you a psychiatric analysis for our understanding.


Methinks you may have a tendency to put words in one's mouth to support your narrative. I, like you, have opinions and unlike you, I thrive and enjoy learning from those that have different opinions, in fact I have learned more from those with different perspectives than those that share/mimic mine. I never suggested that EV buyers will have any technical problems. Nope, nadda a word.

And I don't see how the current infrastructure can sustain explosion demand for electricity. Maybe you can enlighten us on how 100 million EV will get enough juice to recharge batteries with a capacity of 50-100kWh, and who pays for it?

BTW, where did you earn your degree in psychiatry? Methinks the School of Cracker Jack.


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SPRey wrote:

...unlike you, I thrive and enjoy learning from those that have different opinions, in fact I have learned more from those with different perspectives than those that share/mimic mine.

And I don't see how the current infrastructure can sustain explosion demand for electricity. Maybe you can enlighten us on how 100 million EV will get enough juice to recharge batteries with a capacity of 50-100kWh, and who pays for it?

BTW, where did you earn your degree in psychiatry? Methinks the School of Cracker Jack.


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Well, let me put it this way. My problem is the money to buy my EV (well, I actually have it and just waiting for Tesla to let me know when I can get my Cybertruck).

Having enough juice is partly my problem, maybe solar panels as I charge it overnight. Then the power companies when I'm traveling and using the charging stations all over the country or across the border.

Do I think there is a looming unsolvable or deal-breaker for EV shortage of electricity in the near future and the long run? I don't think so. If there will be, we solved a bigger problem than that before and I'm confident this problem is not rocket surgery.

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SPRey wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

SPRey wrote:

Nothing went wrong when I bought my first computer (Commodore 64). It worked great until I bought an Apple II, then I gave it to my neighbor.

Bought my 1968 VW bug for $800 and sold it 10 years later for $1000 (after adding 100k miles). I did add a quadraphonic 8 track tape player and replaced the backseat with a "cargo deck".

When I buy a computer today, I buy the best I can, knowing that tomorrow it will be "obsolete".

With pre-planning and strategizing, I don't have many "woulda, shoulda, coulda" feelings. I set my emotions and "feelings" aside, and visualize the process from start to finish, then turn the page 90 degrees and do it again, and repeat; many times the "first solution" uncovered is not the best. Rather I prefer to explore different perspectives, gathering multiple solutions--then select the best solution from the "many". Call me anal, call me silly, but it has worked for me and my clients for the past 40 years.


Huh? You have had no traumatic experience with your own big ticket nor hi-tech purchases and yet you surmise that EV buyers will have one?

Sorry, I don't see where you are coming from -- and I have done for you a psychiatric analysis for our understanding.


Methinks you may have a tendency to put words in one's mouth to support your narrative. I, like you, have opinions and unlike you, I thrive and enjoy learning from those that have different opinions, in fact I have learned more from those with different perspectives than those that share/mimic mine. I never suggested that EV buyers will have any technical problems. Nope, nadda a word.

And I don't see how the current infrastructure can sustain explosion demand for electricity. Maybe you can enlighten us on how 100 million EV will get enough juice to recharge batteries with a capacity of 50-100kWh, and who pays for it?

BTW, where did you earn your degree in psychiatry? Methinks the School of Cracker Jack.


Well, an explosion demand would be about 3/4 of a percent per year for 3 or 4 decades depending on what power company you listen. BC hydro says about 19 percent over 30 years. That’s for personal cars and trucks. Etc.

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Lots of time wasted talking about EV's here on a rv forum. No EV pick ups towing campers or EV mh'sn and if Tesla doe's the same with their pu as the class 8 truck that may also be several years away.


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Bird Freak wrote:

Lots of time wasted talking about EV's here on a rv forum.


Yup. Quit thinking about the future.

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And dodge starts to waiver.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/26/dodge-bo........ricas-new-golden-age-of-muscle-cars.html

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