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Yosemite Sam1

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Of course it is a lot slower with zero to 60 around 4 seconds. [emoticon]

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As Ev's become more and more common that means there will be less and less ICE's on the road.
What you will see happen is the opposite of what all the EV naysayers are saying about number of charging stations. They say EV won't catch on because there aren't enough places to charge on the road.


When EV's take over there won't be gas stations available anymore for all your ICE drivers. Nobody is going to keep a gas station open if they are selling 1/4 of the amount of fuel that they are now selling.
This alone will accelerate the demise of ICE even more. You will be hearing ICE drivers complain that they aren't going to drive cross country if they don't know if there will be an open gas station when they need it.

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As Ev's become more and more common that means there will be less and less ICE's on the road.
What you will see happen is the opposite of what all the EV naysayers are saying about number of charging stations. They say EV won't catch on because there aren't enough places to charge on the road.


When EV's take over there won't be gas stations available anymore for all your ICE drivers. Nobody is going to keep a gas station open if they are selling 1/4 of the amount of fuel that they are now selling.
This alone will accelerate the demise of ICE even more. You will be hearing ICE drivers complain that they aren't going to drive cross country if they don't know if there will be an open gas station when they need it.


Yep. And there will never be as many fast charge stations as gas stations because most charging is done at home.

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400 miles would be more than double the range of my gasser truck while towing.
Maybe I will have to go electric to get better range [emoticon]

No you just need to go diesel to improve that range..
OOPs sorry wrong advice. Diesel gasser bashing is another thread [emoticon]


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Actually I hope to skip the diesel phase and go right to the top with electric. All good. Whatever gets you down the road is what you need [emoticon]

I wonder if there will be add-on battery packs available for the bed like diesels [emoticon]


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Actually I hope to skip the diesel phase and go right to the top with electric. All good. Whatever gets you down the road is what you need [emoticon]

I wonder if there will be add-on battery packs available for the bed like diesels [emoticon]

That could work: [emoticon]

Fill the bed with a big bank of extra batteries in addition to the onboard ones. Dragging a big TT or 5ver is gonna suck hard on them, but if you overcome that with quantity, limit yourself to say 400 miles in a day and pull into a full hookup CG for the night, you've got all night to bring them back to 100% for the next days travels.
Go another 400 miles and do it again!

Hey, I like it! Whisper quiet, just like a Tesla.... yeah!
But of course, I know zip nada zilch about EVs and I'm assuming a bed full of batteries will give you that range.
Might cost a few bucks for all that extra juice, but you could always collect pop bottles and sell pencils on the street corners to pay for it all! [emoticon]

Time2roll, you got a plan here. [emoticon]


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BobsYourUncle wrote:

time2roll wrote:

Actually I hope to skip the diesel phase and go right to the top with electric. All good. Whatever gets you down the road is what you need [emoticon]

I wonder if there will be add-on battery packs available for the bed like diesels [emoticon]

That could work: [emoticon]

Fill the bed with a big bank of extra batteries in addition to the onboard ones. Dragging a big TT or 5ver is gonna suck hard on them, but if you overcome that with quantity, limit yourself to say 400 miles in a day and pull into a full hookup CG for the night, you've got all night to bring them back to 100% for the next days travels.
Go another 400 miles and do it again!

Hey, I like it! Whisper quiet, just like a Tesla.... yeah!
But of course, I know zip nada zilch about EVs and I'm assuming a bed full of batteries will give you that range.
Might cost a few bucks for all that extra juice, but you could always collect pop bottles and sell pencils on the street corners to pay for it all! [emoticon]

Time2roll, you got a plan here. [emoticon]


Based on what little I have been reading about batteries. if you can get and use lithium ion bats, they can be discharged 100% and broght back up to 100%, so you 'should' be able to get away with fewer, less lbs of batter than say a lead acid, that can or should only be discharged too 25-30% of capacity. THIS issue is what is the real issue today. Future we should be able to get to the point, that the battery pack should not weigh a ton per say! Not that some of our ICE rigs motors are near there, especially some of the diesels depending upon size etc.

Nice thing about lithium and AGM, is you can charge them at much higher rates than lead acid bats.

Then again, who would have thought everyone on this planet would have a phone in there pocket, no landline per say at home! I'm sure we can all come up with other things we thought would be farther down the road than it came up to be.......with this thought, time to go to bed.....ooops, better not say that, the trolls will be out! LOLOL

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Ok let's make this another doomsday for Tesla thread [emoticon]


One word homey: Sustainability.

If a car company cannot sustain from sales of it's primary product (EV), even when propped up by the US Government with a $7500 bribe/subsidy to their "effluent" customers, then maybe--the currently produced product is not commercially feasible.

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time2roll wrote:

Ok let's make this another doomsday for Tesla thread [emoticon]


One word homey: Sustainability.

If a car company cannot sustain from sales of it's primary product (EV), even when propped up by the US Government with a $7500 bribe/subsidy to their "effluent" customers, then maybe--the currently produced product is not commercially feasible.

"And so castles made of sand, slips into the sea, eventually." -Jimi Hendrix


Tesla buyers haven’t got that 7500 tax credit in years. Neither does GM. That is only available to companies like

Toyota
Nissan
BMW
Mercedes
VW
Kia
Hyundai
Etc etc

Are you also in favour of removing the subsidies to the oil industry?

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Timmo! wrote:

time2roll wrote:

Ok let's make this another doomsday for Tesla thread [emoticon]


One word homey: Sustainability.

If a car company cannot sustain from sales of it's primary product (EV), even when propped up by the US Government with a $7500 bribe/subsidy to their "effluent" customers, then maybe--the currently produced product is not commercially feasible.

"And so castles made of sand, slips into the sea, eventually." -Jimi Hendrix


Tesla buyers haven’t got that 7500 tax credit in years. Neither does GM. That is only available to companies like

Toyota
Nissan
BMW
Mercedes
VW
Kia
Hyundai
Etc etc

Are you also in favour of removing the subsidies to the oil industry?


I'll raise my hands and feet to agree![emoticon]

And remove our troops from harms way guarding the oil shipping lanes in the Gulf and all of Middle East.

Then put the savings to education and health care.

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