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Bumpyroad

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spoon059 wrote:

Certainly interesting for sure. Lots of things to consider though...
Where is the power coming from? Clean renewable energy is great to hope for, but unrealistic to power the entire world. Maybe PV tech will make leaps and bounds.
How are we storing excess power? Manufacturing of batteries is a high cost, financially and in resources and waste. Tesla has greatly improved batteries, but my yearly 200 mile round trip to Florida would require a LOT of battery charging or swapping.
COST? New technology is expensive. You need significant buy-in to bring the price down per vehicle. This being GM, and with Biden's federal fleet program, I'm sure that our tax dollars will be spent subsidizing this program, but at what cost?

Again, interesting idea and I'm hopeful for new innovations. I always wonder why we don't have more technology like our trains are doing with diesel electric engines.


Did you mean 2000 mile round trip? A 200 mile round trip can be fine by pretty much every EV on the North American market with no charging. Typo?


I would like to know of that shortcut to get from DC to florida in 100 miles. the same math is being used in these fanciful dreaming ideas.
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We don't need no stinking electric vehicles, airplanes, smartphones, or Internet. Backward Ho!

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Bumpyroad wrote:

Reisender wrote:

spoon059 wrote:

Certainly interesting for sure. Lots of things to consider though...
Where is the power coming from? Clean renewable energy is great to hope for, but unrealistic to power the entire world. Maybe PV tech will make leaps and bounds.
How are we storing excess power? Manufacturing of batteries is a high cost, financially and in resources and waste. Tesla has greatly improved batteries, but my yearly 200 mile round trip to Florida would require a LOT of battery charging or swapping.
COST? New technology is expensive. You need significant buy-in to bring the price down per vehicle. This being GM, and with Biden's federal fleet program, I'm sure that our tax dollars will be spent subsidizing this program, but at what cost?

Again, interesting idea and I'm hopeful for new innovations. I always wonder why we don't have more technology like our trains are doing with diesel electric engines.


Did you mean 2000 mile round trip? A 200 mile round trip can be fine by pretty much every EV on the North American market with no charging. Typo?


I would like to know of that shortcut to get from DC to florida in 100 miles. the same math is being used in these fanciful dreaming ideas.
bumpy


Well, I don’t know the geography of the US much. But if it’s a typo and it’s supposed to be a 2000 mile return trip that is 1000 miles each way. So probably two days there and two days back. So no sweat for the most commonly sold EV’s today. Take a 20 minute lunch break at a supercharger and you are good to go. We do that kind of sceenario. We stay at a hotel with destination chargers. Leave full in the morning. Too easy.

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We've seen tube TV's become obsolete.


Topic drift, but I kinda long for the days of "plug it in, turn it on" TV without 125 miles of cables attached to various devices and software updates that make a TV suddenly weird.

Back to topic, in my neck of the woods, 2 years ago a Tesla on the road was a bit of a novelty, now I can't swing a dead cat without hitting one; as well as a few of Tesla's competitors. [emoticon]

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free radical wrote:

larry barnhart wrote:

china has the code to our power grid so best to not worry what might be.

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Better China then Russia,
China has no reason to destroy US,their intent is to sell us whatever they produce.

Watch Chinese imperialism /S

https://youtu.be/03l3Ra4bL_A


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thomasmnile wrote:

Lantley wrote:


We've seen tube TV's become obsolete.


Topic drift, but I kinda long for the days of "plug it in, turn it on" TV without 125 miles of cables attached to various devices and software updates that make a TV suddenly weird.

Back to topic, in my neck of the woods, 2 years ago a Tesla on the road was a bit of a novelty, now I can't swing a dead cat without hitting one; as well as a few of Tesla's competitors. [emoticon]


I got a mental image there. I kinda feel bad for the cat.

Just sayin.

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The ICE is on its way out just like the horse was. There will be a few around but it will be few for special purposes.

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Reisender wrote:

Bumpyroad wrote:

Reisender wrote:

spoon059 wrote:

Certainly interesting for sure. Lots of things to consider though...
Where is the power coming from? Clean renewable energy is great to hope for, but unrealistic to power the entire world. Maybe PV tech will make leaps and bounds.
How are we storing excess power? Manufacturing of batteries is a high cost, financially and in resources and waste. Tesla has greatly improved batteries, but my yearly 200 mile round trip to Florida would require a LOT of battery charging or swapping.
COST? New technology is expensive. You need significant buy-in to bring the price down per vehicle. This being GM, and with Biden's federal fleet program, I'm sure that our tax dollars will be spent subsidizing this program, but at what cost?

Again, interesting idea and I'm hopeful for new innovations. I always wonder why we don't have more technology like our trains are doing with diesel electric engines.


Did you mean 2000 mile round trip? A 200 mile round trip can be fine by pretty much every EV on the North American market with no charging. Typo?


I would like to know of that shortcut to get from DC to florida in 100 miles. the same math is being used in these fanciful dreaming ideas.
bumpy


Well, I don’t know the geography of the US much. But if it’s a typo and it’s supposed to be a 2000 mile return trip that is 1000 miles each way. So probably two days there and two days back. So no sweat for the most commonly sold EV’s today. Take a 20 minute lunch break at a supercharger and you are good to go. We do that kind of sceenario. We stay at a hotel with destination chargers. Leave full in the morning. Too easy.


Out west a 1000 mile trip is often a 1 day deal, we've done it a bunch even with young children and towing. That's not doable with an EV, towing or not.


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IdaD wrote:

Reisender wrote:

Bumpyroad wrote:

Reisender wrote:

spoon059 wrote:

Certainly interesting for sure. Lots of things to consider though...
Where is the power coming from? Clean renewable energy is great to hope for, but unrealistic to power the entire world. Maybe PV tech will make leaps and bounds.
How are we storing excess power? Manufacturing of batteries is a high cost, financially and in resources and waste. Tesla has greatly improved batteries, but my yearly 200 mile round trip to Florida would require a LOT of battery charging or swapping.
COST? New technology is expensive. You need significant buy-in to bring the price down per vehicle. This being GM, and with Biden's federal fleet program, I'm sure that our tax dollars will be spent subsidizing this program, but at what cost?

Again, interesting idea and I'm hopeful for new innovations. I always wonder why we don't have more technology like our trains are doing with diesel electric engines.


Did you mean 2000 mile round trip? A 200 mile round trip can be fine by pretty much every EV on the North American market with no charging. Typo?


I would like to know of that shortcut to get from DC to florida in 100 miles. the same math is being used in these fanciful dreaming ideas.
bumpy


Well, I don’t know the geography of the US much. But if it’s a typo and it’s supposed to be a 2000 mile return trip that is 1000 miles each way. So probably two days there and two days back. So no sweat for the most commonly sold EV’s today. Take a 20 minute lunch break at a supercharger and you are good to go. We do that kind of sceenario. We stay at a hotel with destination chargers. Leave full in the morning. Too easy.


Out west a 1000 mile trip is often a 1 day deal, we've done it a bunch even with young children and towing. That's not doable with an EV, towing or not.


1000 miles is totally doable in an EV. That’s like 1600 km. Why wouldn’t it be. That’s like an17 or18 hour road trip. You are going to take breaks. Just charge on your breaks. A mile road trip doesn’t take us any longer in our Tesla than our old Jeep Grand Cherokee. I can’t imagine ever travelling 1600 km in one day but it wouldn’t be a problem.

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What if--

What if all vehicles are electric (requiring the power grid to be charged) and all ICE cars outlawed.
What if all gas/diesel fuels are also outlawed (Paris Accord/Green New Deal/Great Reset Initiative/Davos 2021).
What if our electronic infrastructure is disrupted by the sun (solar storm) or from an attack from an enemy (China/Russia/North Korea/Iran)?

No electricity, no electronic infrastructure, no power to recharge our battery powered devices/vehicles.

And I hear the howls, "Oh, come on man! This can't happen...man made blackouts are temporary and can be fixed."

Not so for Electromagnetic Pulse effect from solar storms, geomagnetic reversal and we have man made--the EMP weapons China and Russia are/have developed.

To counter US' repeated trespasses into Chinese territorial waters, the Chinese military has the option of using new approaches, including the deployment of electromagnetic weapons, Song Zhongping, a Chinese military expert and commentator, told the Global Times on Tuesday.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1182886.shtml

DuckDuckGo/Google this search term: "EMP" "Pearl Harbor"
and select your favorite "biased" news source.

Is any government/global power capable of handling an EMP crises? As evidenced with COVID-19, IMO the answer is no. For decades western governments have spent billions of dollars preparing for biological warfare and civil defense protection/recovery--from threats with mortality rates of over 90% (anthrax, genetically modified organisms, etc). But when challenged with COVID-19 with a teensy weensy >1% mortality rate--we are greeted with global incompetence. All hat, no cowboy. They all over promised and under delivered.

Methinks the old style ICE engines (the ones without CPUs) will be in great demand in post EMP world. Should have kept my old '68 VW bug, packed it in grease and buried it in my backyard.

And for those that like to read, download this http://www.firstempcommission.org/upload........of_emp_attack_by_peter_pry_july_2017.pdf

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