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ndanecker

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I believe we have the RV narrowed down and its the Grand Design Momentum 395ms. Also have a new tow rig on order (1/8/2021) and its a 21 Ram 3500 Megacab DRW. I know its a short bed and will need some care in turns unless you go with a slider or other device to limit (or really increase) cab to trailer distance.

So - one option I would lean towards is the Reese Goosebox. I have the GN prep included because I want the holes clean and like the puck system. Was thinking about swapping out the GN hitch for a B&W one that has the square hole so I can use the 4" offset ball. Million dollar question is do you feel this will get me close to 90* or at least to a point where I don't need to pucker-up every time I make a wide turn or try backing into a spot.

Really don't want to do a slider.

Suggestions and comments welcomed. Thanks guys.

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Whatever hitch setup you decide on, if you can be close to 40"s from back of cab, to hitch pin center, it should work. Length of pinbox, amount of curve to front of trailer, width of trailer front, all things to consider.

One thing to keep in mind...no sense to turn/back to 90 degrees. The closer you get to 90, the more you are twisting/pushing sideways, but not backing. It is always best to pull ahead a little, straighten, then back again at a lesser angle.

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Posted: 02/11/21 05:12am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Towed with a Mega for over 10 yrs but had a Pullrite Superglide hitch. I know you said you didn't want a slider. I liked the piece of mind and never even thought about hitting my cab with the trailer.


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Well you have people that have towed 5er's with Mega/SB for years without issues, and those that dent the cab or bust a rear window the first trip out. I think a big part of it is how tight a space you try to back into, or how sharp you try to turn. A large part is ones awareness level!


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Posted: 02/11/21 07:46am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

The front cap on the 395MS has a deeply scalloped front cap. With a reasonable amount of care, practice, and planning, rather doubt you're going to have any problems.

We towed a 5th wheel toy hauler with our Ram 3500 SB (same 6'4" bed as the Mega) SRW using a standard hitch. Before hittin' the road the first time we seriously considered purchasing a slider hitch based on some of the horror stories (ref truck cab damage). So glad we didn't. Turns out we had plenty of cab clearance for every parking situation we encountered using a standard 5th wheel hitch (our truck had the OEM 5th wheel/gooseneck adapter). Yes, a slider hitch will potentially give you 90 deg in a turn. However, we've found anything more than ~65 deg seriously twists, stresses the trailer's axles--not good.

If you do go with a slider hitch, make absolutely sure the rear of the 5th wheel pin box is high enough that it clears the bed rails and tailgate when it's activated. Doubly important if you're not on level ground. On two occasions, I've seen folks with slider hitches do some serious damage to their truck with the rear of the pin box.

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I am always amused how many RV'ers want to be right at the edge.
Buy a SRW truck and the heaviest RV they can find.
Or they buy a large full size camper and get the shortest bed pick up available and prefer not using a slider hitch.
There needs to be a balance between truck and trailer.
For the most part a large heavy trailer requires a large heavy full size truck, so many times we deviate from these basics and choose to live on the edge with a combo that has obvious shortcomings.


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Lantley wrote:

I am always amused how many RV'ers want to be right at the edge.
Buy a SRW truck and the heaviest RV they can find.
Or they buy a large full size camper and get the shortest bed pick up available and prefer not using a slider hitch.
There needs to be a balance between truck and trailer.
For the most part a large heavy trailer requires a large heavy full size truck, so many times we deviate from these basics and choose to live on the edge with a combo that has obvious shortcomings.
Since no one mentioned SRW except me, I can only assume you're referencing our Ram 3500 SRW towing our 5th wheel toy hauler. If so, you're assumption that we 'bought a SRW truck and the heaviest RV we could find' is totally inaccurate. Quite the opposite, we looked for one of the *lightest* 5th wheel toy haulers we could find. Loaded pin weight was 2.7k. Toy hauler weight loaded was 12.5k. Our truck has 4k of payload and is rated to tow almost 17k. Nothing close to the edge here. I assure you most DRW's pulling triple axle 5th wheel toy haulers are much, much closer to the edge, proportionally, than we were.

As for the OP choosing a short bed DRW, I see nothing wrong with somone giving up some turning radius with a trailer in return for the huge seating and storage space offered by that Megacab DRW rear seat. Nowadays, with manufacturers scalloping the front cap of their 5th wheels, it's very common for folks to use SB trucks to tow 5th wheels without a slider. Back-in-the-day, sliders were almost mandatory---not anymore.

There's nothing here that even remotely defines "living on the edge".

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Lantley wrote:

I am always amused how many RV'ers want to be right at the edge.
Buy a SRW truck and the heaviest RV they can find.
Or they buy a large full size camper and get the shortest bed pick up available and prefer not using a slider hitch.
There needs to be a balance between truck and trailer.
For the most part a large heavy trailer requires a large heavy full size truck, so many times we deviate from these basics and choose to live on the edge with a combo that has obvious shortcomings.


I am always amused by people judging other people without knowing why they make certain choices all because they feel their way is the only way, and best way. Makes it difficult for forum members to get honest help or advice when they have to weed through all the BS commentary opinions from Statler and Waldorf.

So what color truck do you have? Hope its not different than mine.

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I wasn't referencing anyone in general. These threads appear all the time.
It's not that complicated to get the right truck for the application.
We often make this a subjective topic but the towing parameters speak for them selves.
If your trailer weighs Y. Your truck needs to be able to carry Y. Except too often someone wants to use a truck that can only carry up to X, not quite Y.
They will list a host of reasons why X can be made equivalent to Y or why you really don't need to use a Y capable truck cause X is just as good.
This towing at the edge ideology can be found across all kinds of trucks 1/2 tons, 3/4 tons, 1 tons and duallys. Short beds vs. long beds are also part of edge towing.
Choosing a towing combo is a straight forward process if you use a calculator or in the case of a back window a tape measure, however often times we use everything except a calculator or a tape measure.
We make subjective choices based on questionable logic that often leads to getting it right the 2nd time or learning the hard way.
When I went from a TT to a fiver. I knew I wanted a big fiver so I bought a dually right off the bat.
It wasn't that I was in love with a dually, but the math told me if I want to avoid the upgrade game than a dually would allow me to shop for any trailer I wanted without being on the EDGE of my limits.

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OP, have you considered anything like the Anderson Ultimate hitch? I know that style of hitch gives you a little extra leeway in the distance between truck and front cap.

When we go 5th wheel for our next trailer, I'm leaning heavily towards the Anderson hitch. Its light, its a clean install (no picture frame or pucks, just the gooseneck ball) and it gives you a smidge more offset.

Nice looking trailer too, by the way!


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