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I am looking to purchase a new setup for my wife and I. We are retired looking for a couples trailer. We are interested in getting a Ford Expidition XLT with max tow and fx4 package. We want to use it to pull a Grand design 22 mle. It’s 5200lbs empty with tongue at 500 lbs. 26 ft long. I am looking at going with a Hensley wdh. Looking for any advice from others similar. Thanks in advance.

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With the 536 package on the Max that would be a fine pairing for a couple, it might be a little bit more dicy with the non-Max due to the shorter wheelbase. I know the Hensley helps with it, but physics is physics and the bigger footprint of the Max is still going to help fight rotational force from the trailer better.


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Posted: 02/24/21 05:47am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

That trailer has a 7000lb GVWR, so the hitch weigh will likely be up around 800-900lb.

Unless you plan to tow with no gear, I would use these numbers for planning purposes. Probably OK but make sure to check both the tow rating and the trucks payload.


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Posted: 02/24/21 06:23am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Weight-wise, you'll be generally in good shape. I do like the long wheelbase of the Max, but even the regular version tows well. As mentioned, you could have payload challenges if you need to carry a full passenger load while towing.

As for the hitch, I'd try it without the Hensley first. You probably don't need it. Grand Designs don't seem to generate many towing complaints, and the Expedition is stable as well.


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Does the extra 12 inches of wheel base length make that much difference.

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With the max tow, you should be well within spec as I'm seeing 1700# payload but it's always wise to check the door sticker.

The longer the wheelbase, the better the towing experience.

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That should be a good towing experience. Most good quality WDHs will work for you, and the Hensley is on the upper end.

The truck you are choosing, with the max tow, has a lot of options for this purpose.

Yes, when loaded, you will have at least another 1,000, maybe 1,500 lbs added to trailer, and of course, more hitch wt. I don't see a problem, with that rig, loaded and ready to travel. You aren't talking 8 passengers, normally just the two of you.

The extra wheel base length is an asset for towing a trailer.

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I believe that 6k dry is a comfortable limit for the more capable half tons. That Grand Design model is similar in weights to my TT which I have comfortably towed with a far less capable half ton than a late model Expedition. Expect 6500 pounds loaded with 850-900 pounds of loaded TW. Learn how to adjust the WDH to restore 100% front axle weight, even though I think Ford recommends 50%.


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“Does the extra 12 inches of wheel base length make that much difference?”

Yes. Much more comfortable and stable with my 2020 Silverado 1500 double cab vs. the sold 2015 Tahoe.

APT is right. Wouldn’t have pushed my similar Tahoe with more than 6000 pounds.


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GD's tongue weights are for a totally empty trailer, no batteries, no propane tanks. Yeah, I'd guess all-up tongue weight would be 800#+. You may want to consider a Pro Pride hitch also, it seems to be the up and coming favorite.


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