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Grit dog

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Posted: 03/06/21 10:17am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Oh, the opinions abound here!

But fwiw, security waits at airports have been virtually non existent for the last year. (Not because everyone is in their Jetsons cars though...lol)


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Looks like Massachusetts is disallowing sales of new cars with tail pipes as of 2035. I think that’s the third state setting a time limit. And two provinces. The tailpipe market is getting smaller in North America too.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/artic........r-sales-to-end-by-2035-in-massachusetts/

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^Well, at least the ____crats are succeeding at driving a bigger wedge between even deeper in the divide, in the very sensitive and important state of affairs in this country currently. (Again no pun intended...lol)

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I hope that I never get so totally obsessed with one thing that everything that I read or discuss involves that subject. I sure don't want lobbyists forcing their ideas on the general public.





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Lynnmor wrote:

I hope that I never get so totally obsessed with one thing that everything that I read or discuss involves that subject. I sure don't want lobbyists forcing their ideas on the general public.


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That’s what the “Block this member” button is for. It works wonderfully

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That’s what the “Block this member” button is for. It works wonderfully


Yep. Works good. Why waste time reading stuff that doesn’t interest you.

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In 10/20/30 yrs, when they make duallies with 1000 kWh packs and 10 min charging, we go 100% electric. Simple as that!
I understand the 600 mile Semi that runs at 80,000 pounds will not have 1000kWh.


They should have 2000 kWh to do it comfortably.

600 miles is 10 hrs straight at AVERAGE of 60 mph. With 1000 kWh that's 100 kW a average, or 134hp. It takes a LOT more than 134 hp to move 80,000 lbs at an average of 60 mph (including hills).

Even with a 2000 kWh battery that's only 270 hp. Barely enough to maintain 60 mph on perfectly flat ground.

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Groover wrote:

RoyJ wrote:

time2roll wrote:

RoyJ wrote:

In 10/20/30 yrs, when they make duallies with 1000 kWh packs and 10 min charging, we go 100% electric. Simple as that!
I understand the 600 mile Semi that runs at 80,000 pounds will not have 1000kWh.


They should have 2000 kWh to do it comfortably.

600 miles is 10 hrs straight at AVERAGE of 60 mph. With 1000 kWh that's 100 kW a average, or 134hp. It takes a LOT more than 134 hp to move 80,000 lbs at an average of 60 mph (including hills).

Even with a 2000 kWh battery that's only 270 hp. Barely enough to maintain 60 mph on perfectly flat ground.


My motorhome with a similar frontal area to a semi gets about 11mpg at 70mph. The best that I can figure that is only about 140hp at 70mph or about 110hp at 60mph. The Tesla semi is probably has better aerodynamics than my motorhome. Barely enough power to maintain speed on level ground is more battery power than is needed. Yes, more power will be used to climb hills or accelerate but that energy will be recovered when going back down the hill or slowing down and I have never seen any vehicle run at max speed for 8 hours. This would indicate that a 1000kwh battery is pretty close to the mark.

The Tesla semi will have far more power available for hill climbing and acceleration than diesel power rigs. Tests show that it can go from 0-60mph in 20 seconds with a full load. I have never seen a diesel rig do it that quickly. That should help traffic flow better and make traveling more pleasant for all of us.

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