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(My 2018 diesel Ram 4x4 2500 has coil springs front and back. I'm overloaded on my 5th wheel (2000lb hitch weight) and total GVWR by 800 lbs after everything is loaded up for travel.
My local spring guy claims a heavier duty coil spring upgrade would solve the overload problem, since everything else on the 2500 is heavy duty. I would like to know if anyone else did the same to their similar truck and recommend it. Thanks.)

That was my last post. Today, I got my truck back from the local spring shop with new heavier duty rear springs. They ride great, if not better than the worn in originals. The next thing is to test the load from the fiver, but have to wait for some snow and ice to melt in the storage lot. Hopefully, the lights in the faces of oncoming traffic will be fixed. If not, then I'll have to install a pair of airbags.

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Thanks for the update.

How deep did you have to dig into your pockets?


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Road Phantom wrote:

(My 2018 diesel Ram 4x4 2500 has coil springs front and back. I'm overloaded on my 5th wheel (2000lb hitch weight) and total GVWR by 800 lbs after everything is loaded up for travel.
My local spring guy claims a heavier duty coil spring upgrade would solve the overload problem, since everything else on the 2500 is heavy duty. I would like to know if anyone else did the same to their similar truck and recommend it. Thanks.)

That was my last post. Today, I got my truck back from the local spring shop with new heavier duty rear springs. They ride great, if not better than the worn in originals. The next thing is to test the load from the fiver, but have to wait for some snow and ice to melt in the storage lot. Hopefully, the lights in the faces of oncoming traffic will be fixed. If not, then I'll have to install a pair of airbags.


Well you are still overloaded, by GVWR, and wondering just how close you are to tire and axle ratings. Don’t know what 5er you have but if you are at 10,800# GVWR unless you carry a ton of stuff in the bed your pin is closer to 2,500#. Otherwise math says your truck less pin weighs 8,800#,’which is 200# more than my 2016 Ram 3500 DRW base weight.


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" If not, then I'll have to install a pair of airbags."

IMHO bags should have been the first choice.


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Posted: 03/05/21 10:59am Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

Cummins12V98 wrote:

" If not, then I'll have to install a pair of airbags."

IMHO bags should have been the first choice.


Agree...if you needed anything at all, bags should have been first consideration.

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Hi,

I replaced my broken air bags with Timbrins. The air bag cradle broke the welds to the frame.

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Cummins12V98 wrote:

" If not, then I'll have to install a pair of airbags."

IMHO bags should have been the first choice.


bags are a bandaid, springs are probably the best choice but also the most expensive. having had bags before I would buy timberans before I waisted money on bags again.

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StirCrazy wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

" If not, then I'll have to install a pair of airbags."

IMHO bags should have been the first choice.


bags are a bandaid, springs are probably the best choice but also the most expensive. having had bags before I would buy timberans before I waisted money on bags again.

Steve


Not really. Two whimpy full length springs to hold things together and then the air bags do all the work. 9,750# on the rear tires. Nice ride loaded or not.

YES this ia Factory Rear Air Ride but the same applies with standard springs.

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The Firestone airbags that I had on my old GMC 2500 worked great leveling my Cedar Creek Silverback....and I was way over the truck's GVWR....I did add wider wheels and tires to support the weight. The airbag alone configuration worked well for 9 years. The airbags were installed when I bought the 5ver, which also came with a compressor. It was installed in the truck's engine compartment and with a switch I was able to add/subtract air on the fly. I only had the wider wheels the last 3 years before I bought my current dually.


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StirCrazy wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

" If not, then I'll have to install a pair of airbags."

IMHO bags should have been the first choice.


bags are a bandaid, springs are probably the best choice but also the most expensive. having had bags before I would buy timberans before I waisted money on bags again.

Steve


I run empty, pull a small trailer and a large one, the air bags are adjusted with the preset buttons in an instant. Springs might take a while.





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