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jimh425

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Bert the Welder wrote:

So yeah, just go grab any old Harbor Fright welder and start blazing away. Beside, there's always a grinder and paint to make it 'look' good. [emoticon]


I’m partial to Millers, but buying the best welders isn’t any more important than buying the most expensive wrench. Welding well is more related to the skill, consumables, and knowledge of the person than where they bought the equipment.

For grins and giggles, you should take a look at some of the welding projects people do with cheap equipment on youtube. I bet you’d be surprised. Maybe not. [emoticon]


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Big jim wrote:

But also, I can understand that you don’t choose to spend your money that way considering you are driving a ‘94. It’s not like I’m driving a new truck either.


With only 91,000 miles lol...

I use my truck in the mountains getting firewood and hauling the TC..No way would I take a newer truck there..It serves my purposes well and I didn't spend a fortune to buy it,it's like tie downs,my Happijac's work just fine and if I got a heavier truck camper,I would make my own frame mounted...

I support myself not some company..lol

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jimh425 wrote:

Bert the Welder wrote:

So yeah, just go grab any old Harbor Fright welder and start blazing away. Beside, there's always a grinder and paint to make it 'look' good. [emoticon]


I’m partial to Millers, but buying the best welders isn’t any more important than buying the most expensive wrench. Welding well is more related to the skill, consumables, and knowledge of the person than where they bought the equipment.

For grins and giggles, you should take a look at some of the welding projects people do with cheap equipment on youtube. I bet you’d be surprised. Maybe not. [emoticon]


That was my point and not my point.
You can't just go get a welder (no matter what brand) and just weld up a set of tigh-downs. You have to know what you are doing. Otherwise you're risking a lot more then just your camper.
An expensive welder does not make a good weldor. A good weldor can make a cheap welder work.....to a point..... [emoticon]


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Too many general statements, not giving any details.
I am metal fabricator, what is now hobby, but was profession for some time in my life.
When I was estimating what it would take to make template for front tie-down, it was shooting north of 20 hr just for design.
Even Torklift screw the designs as the ties for my Ford come with 4 thick shims to compensate for bad design.
But rear tie downs for truck with rear hitch it just straight tubing with reducer on 1 end and small plate on other end.
Even highschooler can make design in less than 5 minutes.
TL adds "moustache" bracket to bolt under hitch, but I simply drilled 1/4" hole for a pin.
With some extra time you can make it easy bolt-on design, but welding is simply easier.





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I was amazed at the work needed for the front tiedowns on my 2018 Ram. There was just minimal room and a complicated design. The cost was definitely worth it.

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Kayteg1 wrote:

Too many general statements, not giving any details.
I am metal fabricator, what is now hobby, but was profession for some time in my life.
When I was estimating what it would take to make template for front tie-down, it was shooting north of 20 hr just for design.
Even Torklift screw the designs as the ties for my Ford come with 4 thick shims to compensate for bad design.
But rear tie downs for truck with rear hitch it just straight tubing with reducer on 1 end and small plate on other end.
Even highschooler can make design in less than 5 minutes.
TL adds "moustache" bracket to bolt under hitch, but I simply drilled 1/4" hole for a pin.
With some extra time you can make it easy bolt-on design, but welding is simply easier.


Yep. It's the head scratching that takes the time/$. And I agree, the rears are completely different, and if for a give set-up, can be done with just some square tube(of sufficient size/wall thickness)and some drilled holes, then that's fairly straight forward. But even then, we both know that many folks are more then capable of forking even this up. Loose fit, thin wall, holes badly placed. You start getting the "good enough" mentality in there and something like a tie down can go south quite easily.
I tend to assume nothing when it comes to my clients and I assume that 100% when it comes to guys online touting how easy something is to just throw together. I'm no safety Susan, but if it's something that has the potential hurt others or is touted as a "How-To" and is just completely wrong, I'm speaking up.

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Belly bar clamped to the frame for the front. Tubing run through the frame cross member at the wheel well for rear.

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mi.drew wrote:

Belly bar clamped to the frame for the front. Tubing run through the frame cross member at the wheel well for rear.


"C" clamps or "F" clamps?

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What is up with all these single posters? Only 1 post from PO.


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Bert the Welder wrote:

burningman wrote:

Are you guys for real?
These are extremely simple metal fab, not rocket science.
I made my own and they’re a better fit for what I needed than anything Torklift makes, and easily as strong.
I’m not knocking Torklift, they make great stuff.
I’m knocking the people who think no one can or should do anything themself.


Sure. If someone can build a dog house, then they must be able to build a full size house. Makes sense.
So yeah, just go grab any old Harbor Fright welder and start blazing away. Beside, there's always a grinder and paint to make it 'look' good. [emoticon]


That’s not the comment I’d expect from a guy who calls himself Bert the Welder!
I didn’t say “if someone can build a dog house they can build a house”, it’s easy to try to make someone sound crazy by quoting things they never said.
Camper brackets - as you should know judging by your user name - are extremely simple. Seriously anyone with a Harbor Freight welder and a chopsaw could build them.
And sure, you could do a horrible job and scree them up.
You can also be a horrible driver and wreck the truck.


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