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I cut the cord years ago. No cable. Couldn't justify the high cost cable companies charge. Just Wifi. Anything I can access or store on my laptop or NAS I can stream to TV. I do have a roof antenna for local broadcasts but don't watch them very often. I'm about 50 miles from broadcast antennas and pick up about 50 channels although most are in Spanish. I do subscribe to Netflix, Sling and Amazon Prime plus a ton of freebie channels thru Roku. Not sure what I'll do if prices go way up for those.


How do you digitally record movies at home off Netflix, Amazon Prime, and free Roku channels so that you can take a stick full of them with you on RV trips to play back and watch on a monitor/TV when camping?


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pnichols wrote:

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I cut the cord years ago. No cable. Couldn't justify the high cost cable companies charge. Just Wifi. Anything I can access or store on my laptop or NAS I can stream to TV. I do have a roof antenna for local broadcasts but don't watch them very often. I'm about 50 miles from broadcast antennas and pick up about 50 channels although most are in Spanish. I do subscribe to Netflix, Sling and Amazon Prime plus a ton of freebie channels thru Roku. Not sure what I'll do if prices go way up for those.


How do you digitally record movies at home off Netflix, Amazon Prime, and free Roku channels so that you can take a stick full of them with you on RV trips to play back and watch on a monitor/TV when camping?


Good question, I am curious about that also..

My understanding is those streams are "copy protected" and only a few services allow you to "download and play later" but with the caveat that there is a time limit and it must be played back on the device you downloaded it to.. Otherwise you will have to use some "brute force" methods to crack the copy protection or take a hit in sound and video quality and use a "screen recorder" on a PC.. Both brute force and screen record would violate your streaming service TOS..

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The Walmart stores in northern Nevada have at least two bins of DVD and Blue Rays. I was just in one and one bin was completely full with other half full in addition to those on the shelves at higher prices. Cheers

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When we go camping I download whatever we want to watch from Prime or Netflix onto my iPhone. For Prime you can keep a program at least 72 hours after you have started watching it, but you can keep them up to 30 days if you haven't watched them yet.

I bought an adapter for the iPhone that has an HDMI cable socket.
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There are cheaper ones on Amazon but a lot of reviews say they don't work. This one is from Apple and works fine for me.

You start watching the downloaded/saved program on the phone and it can be watched on the TV once the HDMI is selected. I found that if you try to start watching with the cable already connected it gives an error message, but if you start it on the phone and then plug in the cable it works great! The only limitation is how much space you have available on your phone.


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Martyn wrote:

When we go camping I download whatever we want to watch from Prime or Netflix onto my iPhone. For Prime you can keep a program at least 72 hours after you have started watching it, but you can keep them up to 30 days if you haven't watched them yet.

I bought an adapter for the iPhone that has an HDMI cable socket.
iPhone adaptor.
There are cheaper ones on Amazon but a lot of reviews say they don't work. This one is from Apple and works fine for me.

You start watching the downloaded/saved program on the phone and it can be watched on the TV once the HDMI is selected. I found that if you try to start watching with the cable already connected it gives an error message, but if you start it on the phone and then plug in the cable it works great! The only limitation is how much space you have available on your phone.


What you are talking about is different than what I questioned about..

"Prime" may allow you to "download and view later" on the same device it was downloaded too but mileshuff has mentioned "storing" on their Laptop or NAS (Network Attached Storage) and then accessing the laptop or the NAS remotely to watch the downloaded files from Netflix ect.

mileshuff wrote:


I cut the cord years ago. No cable. Couldn't justify the high cost cable companies charge. Just Wifi. Anything I can access or store on my laptop or NAS I can stream to TV. I do have a roof antenna for local broadcasts but don't watch them very often. I'm about 50 miles from broadcast antennas and pick up about 50 channels although most are in Spanish. I do subscribe to Netflix, Sling and Amazon Prime plus a ton of freebie channels thru Roku. Not sure what I'll do if prices go way up for those.


mileshuff is implying that they are somehow downloading streaming material (copy protected streams by the way) to a PC, then moving the streamed file (copy protected?) to their NAS. Then accessing the PC or NAS via a different remote device (unauthorized) which should not be able to view those copy protected downloaded streams.. This implies somehow, mileshuff has found a way around the stream copy protection.

I am no fool to this game and neither is the streaming services which is why they copy protect the streams to prevent one from copying and distributing video streams to other unauthorized devices..

Perhaps I am wrong, I don't know, but I see a lot of mentions about saving streams and watching later using other devices that the streams were not downloaded on..

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One simple way to capture streaming content is to use a service called PlayOn Desktop. I tried it out several years ago and it works great. They have been around for several years and PlayOn claims that it is legal to capture content that you are paying for such as Netflix.

https://www.playon.tv/features


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PlayOn may say it's legal, but what does Netflix say?


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Quote from PlayOn website:

"The PlayOn service is a DVR (“digital video recorder”) for streaming video (or a “streaming video recorder”). Just like any DVR, like a TiVo, the service allows users to make their own recordings for private, non-commercial purposes. Recording programs for viewing at a more convenient time is permitted by United States copyright law as fair use. See Sony Corp. of America v. Universal City Studios, Inc., 464 U.S. 417 (1984), also known as the “Sony Betamax Case”. So is recording programs for viewing in a more convenient place. See Recording Indus. Ass’n of Am. v. Diamond Multimedia Sys., Inc., 180 F.3d 1072 (9th Cir. 1999). Those cases provide evidence of the right to use personal recordings for the purpose of time- or space-shifting. See Lenz v.Universal Music Corp., 815 F.3d 1145, 1152 (9th Cir. 2016) (fair use is “a right” and engaging in fair use is “authorized by the law”)"

https://www.playon.tv/blog/playon-legal

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If the EULA says you can't record the streaming content, and you agree to it, which one applies? Interesting conundrum.

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Here's a good article from Consumer Reports that talks about the recording of streaming content conundrum:

Can you legally record streaming content?

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