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Grit dog wrote:


The tires.. I have a old chevy farm truck with numerous problems with almost new 16" Michelin tires I want to swap to my dodge diesel.. And also the fact I want to run eight identical tires all around and trailer rims don't come in 17".

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Fist thing to check is the bolt pattern. I know you said they are both 8 lug but is the Dodge 6 1/2" pattern like the Chevy or is your Dodge newer with the metric pattern?





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He said his Dodge is old school even though his posts are a bit cryptic.
Plus all srw Dodges and Rams are still 8x6.5 anyway.


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Cummins12V98 wrote:

Disk brakes are the ONLY WAY TO GO.


If it's a small trailer and you are headed to South America, I would go standard drum brakes. Simplicity and availability would win out in my mind. It's different from the USA where you can get overnight delivery of parts via amazon.

As far as the old truck tires...did you check the date stamp on them? Just because they have lots of tread doesn't mean they aren't at the end of life.

If the bolt patterns match up, that's great but if not you might consider tires that can fit either rim. Out in the hinterlands, finding someone who can swap the tires onto a different rim is actually very likely. They tend to be adaptable away from big cities.


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agesilaus wrote:

BTW GY is being sued and losing over the Marathon failures, cost them over $500,000 in on suit. Think about that before you believe them on their Endurance tires. Remember what Gomer said: "Fool me once....."


Apples and Oranges. The Marathons are made in China and notorious for blowouts. In contrast, the Endurance is made in the USA and I have not read or heard of one blowing yet due to cheap/crappy tire. I am sure someone has hit something and blown one, but Endurance tires are clearly better than other choices, by a wide margin.

For many trailers, LT tires are simply not an option. My trailer has tires that are way over rated for the weight and yet, second trip out on a set of 2½ year old Hercules I had one blow and shred less than 15 miles after leaving home. Hercules is supposed to be a good tire, but I had already replaced the '07 Marathon spare (it went on my rarely used utility trailer) and I replaced the blown tire with another Endurance and continued on the trip. I got home and found the other Hercules in front of the blown one had wires embedded in it, scrap. The two off the other side, one had cracks running the full circumference of the tire in the bottom of the treads, scrap, and the last one looked OK so it too went on the utility trailer.

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LT tires are simply not an option.

Why not? And are those Hercules ST or LT?

And the reason GY lost that suit was because they lied about the Marathons. Which does not make me trust them. Unless you are claiming they had a morality transplant when they came out with their endurance tires.


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LT tires are simply not an option.

Why not? And are those Hercules ST or LT?

And the reason GY lost that suit was because they lied about the Marathons. Which does not make me trust them. Unless you are claiming they had a morality transplant when they came out with their endurance tires.


So what other quality RV tires then??? Most are Made in CHINA.


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agesilaus wrote:

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LT tires are simply not an option.

Why not? And are those Hercules ST or LT?

And the reason GY lost that suit was because they lied about the Marathons. Which does not make me trust them. Unless you are claiming they had a morality transplant when they came out with their endurance tires.


Aaaand we're off again!!
Maybe we could get a subject matter expert on what LT tires in 14" and 15" size are of equal or greater capacity than those of ST tires...

* This post was edited 04/06/21 02:23pm by Grit dog *

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After a little research I found 265/70/17's were actually the most popular truck tire, in 2018, and that's the size on the dodge already..

So let me circle back for a minute and consider adapters or spacers on the trailer, so that I could run truck 17'x8 truck rims. Before I can do that, I need to figure out the offset for the third gen 17" ram rims and search if spacers are available for the given offset.

And before I become public enemy number one for running LT tires AND spacers, keep in mind I'm using two 7K axles for a 7x16 cargo that might weigh 8K loaded.

To me running stock 17's with adapters the thickness of the offset minus 1/4" makes just as much sense..


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I think you're trying to create a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
4 quality spacers will run you about $300. You're probably needing 1" -1-1/2" spaces to set the offset the same, but might need a bit more given the wider rims as well.
Then you're running on spacers for what? So you can use your old 17" Dodge wheels on the trailer?
Or are you just looking to have an extra spare tire?

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Apples and Oranges. The Marathons are made in China and notorious for blowouts.

True this.
However before Goodyear moved their Marathons to china they were made in the USA and then Canada.
Yep they were still call st maypops for good reasons.

Goodyear made a attempt to "make them better" which they did with a circle 6 stamped on the sidewall. The circle 6 lasted maybe 6k-8k miles before tread loss or zippers. Before the circle 6 improvement all we could get out of them on our road trailers was 3k-5k miles.

I wouldn't use the term quality tire when referring to a ST C/D/E tire regardless of brand or origin.
Now some of the 16" load G ST tires are all steel ply carcass made for the regional service trailer industry and made in china and are considered a quality tire in that industry. They work on rv trailers also.

Many of our tires we use on rv trailers first came on equipment/other service trailers for the working folks. Word spreads to rv websites.
One of the tops in that industry was the Providers from Taskmaster in the C/D/E loads which were some of the first ST tires to carry a higher speed rating and a automotive type tread design and the nylon cap. Most O/O were running them in the 40k-45k range till wears bars got them.
I would put the Endurance as a second best mainly because of only 1/4" of usable tread depth. Works for most rv folks who never wear a tire out.

The OPs question ??
I didn't see what year model Dodge the OP was using but my '03 was the first year model new designed 3rd gen Dodge truck came with 17" wheels..... larger diameter brakes. My set of OEM size off road tires mounted on 16" OEM wheels on my previous '01 Dodge would not work on the new '03 truck.


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